• vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 days ago

    You were around for the last seven months or so, right?

    What we’re seeing now is not business as usual.

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      I would say it is business as usual, except that we have entered a new phase where it is harder to maintain the illusion that the point of the business all along wasn’t to impoverish and essentially enslave the majority of the people.

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      No, it’s business as usual. The only difference is that what was typically only done abroad, is now being done domestically. Fascism is colonialism coming home to roost.

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      It’s the same, they’re just explicit about it. They’re done pretending it’s anything but what it’s always been.

      Edit: I’d reply but they’re blocked by me for defending the party that has sanewashed fascism since Dubya. Sorry I called out the party that didn’t arrest Trump.

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    Do you still call the parties same after everything that’s happened since Trump took office? Do you think that Kamela would have made the same decisions as trump?

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      Democrats are the brakes and the republicans are the accelerator. But the steering wheel is stuck turning right and very few has any incentive to turn the wheel. And Trump is like “what if we just remove the brakes?”

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        Sure, I don’t say that the Democrats are good, but they’re not fascist. Being smug and saying that “Democrats and Republicans are the same” won’t save you from the death camps.

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          Sure, I don’t say that the Democrats are good, but they’re not fascist.

          So the Gaza genocide and its continuous funding didn’t begin under Biden? 'Cause genocide seems kinda like a fascist thing to me.

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            Republicans are Hitler. Democrats are Mussolini. One thinks being in power, drinking wine, having parades, and beating up little guys is great fun. The other thinks he can go toe to toe with Russian winters.

            Sure, Hitler’s the greater evil, but Mussolini helps however he can.

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              Ok… so someone is pointing out that Biden and Kamala literally gave Israel billions of dollars in weapons to fund the genocide, and all you can say is…

              The genocide is worse under Trump?

              Do you realize how stupid that sounds?

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                What? No, I do think that Kamela would kill Palestinians also. I just don’t think that Kamela would do Gestapo style kidnappings of it’s critics. So iI wonder how long you are allowed to protest under trump compared to Kamela.

            • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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              So Biden or Kamala would have eventually intervened in the Israeli genocide of Palestinians? Based on what evidence? There’s barely an air gap between the two parties on their policies towards Israel, even now. No matter who you vote for, both parties serve the interests of the rich. For Drump, it’s mostly about self enrichment. For the Dems it’s mostly about enriching their donors in the corporate world. Neither party gives two shits about working class people. And yes, Trump is worse, big whoop. That’s hardly an argument for supporting whichever corporate stooge the Dems roll out for the next election. It’s an argument for getting rid of both hopelessly corrupt parties and starting over.

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                Kamela’s lost vas the Democrat’s own fault, I don’t think even if every leftist abstainer voted Kamela would have won.

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      The Republican and Democratic establishments are very much the same.

      Trump - and his Heritage Foundation minders - isn’t business as usual.

      The Rs and Ds both opposed tariffs and supported free market capitalism. Trump demanded tariffs because he’s a boomer, and he wants to go back to his childhood when the economy was based on manufacturing and coal mining.

      The Rs and Ds both gave lip service to free speech. Trump has sued universities for allowing protests, deported students for writing op-eds, and is appointing political commissars to monitor major news networks and veto dissent.

      The Rs and Ds both believed that unbiased economic data was important, even if they wanted different economic policies. Trump fires people for reporting data he doesn’t like.

      The Rs and Ds both believed that soft power was as valuable as hard power, and that USAID and PEPFAR and so on were important, not just on humanitarian grounds, but in building support for the United States around the world. Trump and Musk think soft power is for wimps and are viscerally disgusted by helping black people.

      Frankly, if there is any genuine distinction right now between the Republican establishment and the Democratic establishment, it’s because Trump bullied the Republicans into it. And if this country survives it’ll be interesting - albeit horrifying - to see if the Rs go back to business as usual or continue their slide into an anarcho-capitalist theocracy.

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        Both Republicans and Democrats fo fascism abroad, but only Republicans do this kid of blatant fascism domestically.

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    This isn’t limited to two party systems, but liberal democracies in general in the entire world. There hasn’t really been any change of the status quo for who-knows-how-long anywhere whether it’s 2 or 10 parties on the ballot

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    I didn’t like Biden or Harris, but neither of them promised to send troops into cities.

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    I mean, at least on the one side, it’s a lot easier to get the couch up or down the stairs.

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    Side note, why build like this. Would be nice with a little lounge chair on the side of the steps there or something. A place for the telephone if we lived 50 years ago 😅

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    We can blame parties or whatever. I just blame the average American for not doing something about it