You very clearly see something about yourself in this message. Especially since you’re being so reactionary about it. The fact that you’re so upset about how certain women view men is your own problem. Not theirs.
This is EXTREME hyperbole like I’ve rarely seen before.
Is all empathy secret projection for one’s own insecurity? Or only when the empathy is for someone who isn’t a member of a traditionally/systemically victimized group?
I’m apart of the don’t be a shithead crowd. Apparently a lot of men in this thread aren’t. And you all wonder why so many women are so terrified of men. You can’t even empathize with the fear and abuse they face at a systemic level.
I do. I empathize with it completely. I’m not even saying that condition is WRONG. But I AM saying that turning someone’s lamentation of the situation into an attack on them is crass. It’s possible to acknowledge the bad situation one group is in, and acknowledge their actions are reasonable, while ALSO being sympathetic about the collateral damage of the situation.
Rather than focus on the very real and legitimate issues at hand, they made it about themselves. Complaining in the thread about how they’re being targeted as a man instead of having a modicum of introspection about why so many women feel this way. I don’t respect or empathize with such a position.
Obviously you have a whole imaginary version of me in your head that you can carry on an argument with, so there’s no reason for me to waste any more of my time.
Again, you cannot assume that they chose to call it unfair simply as a self-defense mechanism. Imagine someone accused your family of being murderers, then said the only reason you would be upset by that is if you really did have murderous proclivities and felt self-conscious about it.
And frankly, even if that was their entire motivation for calling it unfair in the first place, it does not mean they are wrong.
You very clearly see something about yourself in this message. Especially since you’re being so reactionary about it. The fact that you’re so upset about how certain women view men is your own problem. Not theirs.
This is EXTREME hyperbole like I’ve rarely seen before.
Is all empathy secret projection for one’s own insecurity? Or only when the empathy is for someone who isn’t a member of a traditionally/systemically victimized group?
I’m apart of the don’t be a shithead crowd. Apparently a lot of men in this thread aren’t. And you all wonder why so many women are so terrified of men. You can’t even empathize with the fear and abuse they face at a systemic level.
I do. I empathize with it completely. I’m not even saying that condition is WRONG. But I AM saying that turning someone’s lamentation of the situation into an attack on them is crass. It’s possible to acknowledge the bad situation one group is in, and acknowledge their actions are reasonable, while ALSO being sympathetic about the collateral damage of the situation.
Rather than focus on the very real and legitimate issues at hand, they made it about themselves. Complaining in the thread about how they’re being targeted as a man instead of having a modicum of introspection about why so many women feel this way. I don’t respect or empathize with such a position.
Obviously you have a whole imaginary version of me in your head that you can carry on an argument with, so there’s no reason for me to waste any more of my time.
Just calling it as it is.
“This harmful generalization is bad for society”
“Clearly you only feel that way because it actually describes you personally”
Not only is that an unfair assumption, it’s also irrelevant to their claim.
Their claim is inherently irrelevant and reactionary. They were reactionary because they felt called out.
Again, you cannot assume that they chose to call it unfair simply as a self-defense mechanism. Imagine someone accused your family of being murderers, then said the only reason you would be upset by that is if you really did have murderous proclivities and felt self-conscious about it.
And frankly, even if that was their entire motivation for calling it unfair in the first place, it does not mean they are wrong.