Weight Comparison
| Model | Weight (grams) | Screen Size |
|---|---|---|
| LG Gram Pro 16 (2026) | 1,199 | 16-inch |
| MacBook Air 15 (M4/M3) | 1,510 | 15-inch |
| MacBook Pro 14 (M5/M3) | 1,550-1,600 | 14-inch |
| MacBook Pro 16 (M3+) | 2,140-2,200 | 16-inch |
Kinda fascinating how they manage to cram RTX GPUs in there, don’t know how practical it is given the obvious constraints in battery life and cooling but eh. If the new models are anything like the current models they’ll even have decent I/O (minus the ethernet port grumble grumble)
If they offered an AMD version with a dedicated AMD GPU I’d even be half interested. But not really, my ThinkPad P14s is gonna serve me very well for the next 10 years or so.
I’m not going to buy anything from LG any more. My ongoing battle against my own LG TV’s enshittification (forced ads and AI everywhere, getting worse every update) has soured my opinion on LG. They can go to hell.
I agree, LG is a pretty awful brand all around but I really like the idea of new lighter materials used in consumer hardware. Moving away from plastics to metal frames has been nothing but a fashion mistake.
I’ve actually always liked the solid feel of Macbooks. There are lighter laptops out there, but few if any feel as solid.
Hard disagree, macbooks have some of the most unergonomic and awful frame design. The sharp corner alone are just so peak stupidity.
I think people fall for “heavy == quality” falacy way too often here especially since the aluminum frame is actually worse at protecting the internals.
I just like the rigidity. I hate bendy laptops.
Why would I need the internals protected? Like most laptops, none of mine move around a lot. If I worked out in the field, I’d get something actually tough, sure. But I don’t need a Toughbook.
Ofc with AI™
So no ports, a shitty battery and OS level spyware? Pass.
I think i will rather add a framework mainboard if i feel my 2018 Thinkpad needs an upgrade. Frame and screen are still like new and it’s quite repairable.
Do you actually want super light laptops? I feel like there is a sweet spot, but who knows maybe I would even want one, never held it in my hands/used it.
I feel like this comes at the cost of repairability as well though.
It does make a difference, especially when the gains are so massive. Personally I don’t care much for it but free weight loss is free weight loss. Hopefully this tech gets adopted by other laptop brands.
People looking to make an airfoil out of their laptop or some shit?
It’s still the same fucking Tiktok guys.
Tbf half the weight is huge gains. There a big difference between carrying 2 kilograms and 1.
I’m guessing it’ll pair horrible battery life with awful build quality like most Windows laptops tend to do. They’re all focusing on being thin and light like a MacBook but none of them are close to what Apple has, because of that they loose everything that makes PCs special in the desperate attempt to achieve something Apple does better.
*Looks at a 5y old G14 that gives a modern m4 Air a run for its money.
Yeah, Imma call BS on that. Apple has a handful of product lines that share vertically integrated components that allows them the economies of scale to integrate great things like their glass trackpad in cheaper models like the air. That said, there are several premium laptops at the same price tags than Apple that are arguably a better choice than the Apple offerings, the aforementioned G14 among them, especially if one takes linux compatibility seriously.
The CPU in the 2025 G14 seems to give the M4 Air a run for its money, I wouldn’t be so sure about a 5 year old one though unless you got a very high spec one. The G14 does have a much better GPU and display than the Air, but that’s sorta expected at close to twice the price.
After 5y the 5900HS is still a compelling alternative to the M4.
If one would run a 2t cinebench vs 1t on the Apple silicon the 5900 would have competitive single core performance too. (Apple lacks SMT)
This is two nodes behind and with 2 cores less. If people stopped using geekbench for laptops and PCs, this stupid Apple narrative would go away. Apple makes great laptops but they aren’t the best and are arguably worse because they lock you into Apple’s commercial relationships with software providers. There’s HW acceleration for Adobe software but none for D’Assault software or Siemens software. Apple is the machine for the dilletante, and because most content creators are dilletantes, the message that passes is Apple centric. If Apple and Apple users were to evaporate, the world would carry on as usual, if linux machines would disappear overnight it would be utter chaos.
I believe the gram is know to have decent build quality. I’m sure it doesn’t compare to an M series Mac when it comes to performance and battery life, but at least I could put Linux on it.
And then they all go to a landfill near you. When was LG a name on the laptop market?
Companies like this should not be allowed to churn crap like this
And then the all go to a landfill near you
I must assume you’re talking about LG and Apple laptops both.
To be fair, Apple hardware typically lasts for a long time. My wife has a 5 year old m1 air and we have no plans to replace it anytime soon.
We have been out the past few hours working and she went from like 50% to maybe 30-40% in that time.
I am talking about all the crap that is being built for no reason at all other than a gimmick . Like these LG laptops or the million of devices that are underpowered , poorly built or offer no real benefit. It makes more sense to buy a slightly more expensive device to make it last longer than getting a cheap unusable device. And if you can’t afford a new one always have a look at the second hand market. There are high quality slightly older devices that are infinitely better than 90%of the new ones built solely to be thrown in the bin in the shortest amount of time.
Almost as good as a macbook from 5 years ago, for only twice the price!
Not sure what you mean by that? Macbooks aren’t good laptops to begin with.
I’d take a “my first Sony”-notebook over those crapbooks for the technologically challenged 😁
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im building a cyber deck, fuck this shit.
Well if it’s anything like their previous models then it probably feels like it’s a toy. I remembered playing with a display model when I was thinking of buy it and was amazing by how flimsy it was.
On paper they seem like good laptops. But in practice?
I don’t think your personal anecdote is grounded in any meaningful reality. Laptop tech has been mostly solved for better part of a decade now and even cheap aliexpress laptops are built well enough to hold for years.
“built well enough to hold for years” is the bare minimum in laptop build quality. sure, lots of crappy flimsy laptops will last “years” but they are still crappy flimsy laptops.
also tons has changed in laptops over the last decade, particularly in efficiency.
Just removed the battery.
The question is does it run as silent as apple laptops?
The question is can I run Linux on it.
Silence, at least under light load, is honestly such a nice feature.
I bought my desktop at an auction for a self-driving car startup that was shutting down. Amazing specs, great price. It had two RTX 2080 Ti cards in there. Loudest GPU fan I’ve ever heard in my life. All the other fans in the computer are Noctua but I guess the Ti cards are strictly optimized for performance and not necessarily gaming. I got some nice speakers that are color-coordinated with the desktop but when I’m doing some serious gaming I have to use noise-cancelling headphones to tune out the sound of the GPU fan. Might get a different GPU at some point but it’s out of my fun budget right now.
Do you have any use case for dual cards? Might trade them in for one newer, more efficient card.
hated my 3060 ti because of the ridiculously loud fans. the lowest speed for the fans was 1600 rpm and at that speed it howled like a wolf. it would frequently turn them on even when idle as the temps went above 55.
very happy with my new sapphire 9070 xt, it stays perfectly silent no matter what i throw at it.
Personally I’m fine with them taking the noise levels from the aerospace industry, too. My primary concern is how’s the battery life?
well more noise usually goes hand in hand with worse battery life.
Most non-gaming laptops since 2010 don’t really make noticeable noise
no, even in 2020 Intel Macs were noisy compared to apple silicon Macs.
How can fanless intel macbook air make noise?
They had fans in the Pro, nobody mentioned the Air specifically in this thread. The Air at that time had a crappy Y series Intel CPU in order to go fanless.
Only the MacBook 12 was fanless from the Intel era, but I’m not too sure about that. Airs were never fanless while being Intel.
