Eh, car guys are often easier to persuade that public transport and walkability policies are useful.
They would prefer not to have to share the road with normies.
Yeah, car guys in my experience consistently think (maybe correctly) that everyone else on the road but them is a total moron. You don’t like those pesky cyclists sharing the road with you? Neither do most of us cyclists; let’s get them on separated paths. Don’t like morons who can’t drive? Make it so they don’t have to. Don’t like traffic? Take the other space-inefficient cars off the road.
I think car people recognize that just positively reinforcing micromobility and public transit can improve their experience.
Agreed. As a car guy, I genuinely hate how most roads are setup in the US. We could be doing so much better to keep drivers focused and safe, but they just copy-paste more giant grids into hellscapes because it doesn’t require any thought or creativity.
That’s actually another really good point: North American stroads have to be so fucking tedious for people who actually want to get something out of their cars. It’s the same shit everywhere so there’s nothing to see, you go just fast enough for your $100,000 car to be totaled if someone sneezes at you but not enough for it to be fun, you’re constantly in danger thanks to the poor design, and it’s you and a goddamn thousand people trying to get to Paunch Burger.
Imagine you had a high-end gaming PC and the only way to use it was to play cheap asset flips. I’m not saying we make roads into racetracks when the normies are gone; rather, I’m saying holy shit, the roads in well-designed urban places are so much more interesting and beautiful to drive in.
Whenever I see a really nice car stuck in traffic my heart breaks a little. It deserves better than creeping along because some idiot can’t zipper merge.
I rarely use cruise control and the closest thing to traction control I have is a limited slip differential. All analog dials and a basic-ass double DIN radio that just functions as Bluetooth for the rare call.
I want my input to go straight to the wheels and I would rather die by my own hand than let a company’s negligence do it for me.
I don’t think they’re all morons. Some are just not good at driving. I’m not good at a lot of things, but most of them aren’t forced on me as the only way to survive in society.
Total separation of pedestrians and cyclists from cars isn’t feasible unless we’re willing to close large parts of cities from vehicle traffic. Will people support this? I certainly do but in the USA this is widely regarded as an unrealistic solution.
One of my buddies is a car guy and he recently moved to a denser city and would bike to work pretty often. Driving is supposed to be a pleasure for car guys and most of them won’t scratch that itch on a stroad or clogged highway.
Eh, car guys are often easier to persuade that public transport and walkability policies are useful.
They would prefer not to have to share the road with normies.
Yeah, car guys in my experience consistently think (maybe correctly) that everyone else on the road but them is a total moron. You don’t like those pesky cyclists sharing the road with you? Neither do most of us cyclists; let’s get them on separated paths. Don’t like morons who can’t drive? Make it so they don’t have to. Don’t like traffic? Take the other space-inefficient cars off the road.
I think car people recognize that just positively reinforcing micromobility and public transit can improve their experience.
Agreed. As a car guy, I genuinely hate how most roads are setup in the US. We could be doing so much better to keep drivers focused and safe, but they just copy-paste more giant grids into hellscapes because it doesn’t require any thought or creativity.
That’s actually another really good point: North American stroads have to be so fucking tedious for people who actually want to get something out of their cars. It’s the same shit everywhere so there’s nothing to see, you go just fast enough for your $100,000 car to be totaled if someone sneezes at you but not enough for it to be fun, you’re constantly in danger thanks to the poor design, and it’s you and a goddamn thousand people trying to get to Paunch Burger.
Imagine you had a high-end gaming PC and the only way to use it was to play cheap asset flips. I’m not saying we make roads into racetracks when the normies are gone; rather, I’m saying holy shit, the roads in well-designed urban places are so much more interesting and beautiful to drive in.
Whenever I see a really nice car stuck in traffic my heart breaks a little. It deserves better than creeping along because some idiot can’t zipper merge.
And the advances they make like lane keeping and auto cruise control just make people even less aware of what they’re doing.
They’re not building cars to be driven anymore. They’re building them to sit in traffic.
I rarely use cruise control and the closest thing to traction control I have is a limited slip differential. All analog dials and a basic-ass double DIN radio that just functions as Bluetooth for the rare call.
I want my input to go straight to the wheels and I would rather die by my own hand than let a company’s negligence do it for me.
I don’t think they’re all morons. Some are just not good at driving. I’m not good at a lot of things, but most of them aren’t forced on me as the only way to survive in society.
Total separation of pedestrians and cyclists from cars isn’t feasible unless we’re willing to close large parts of cities from vehicle traffic. Will people support this? I certainly do but in the USA this is widely regarded as an unrealistic solution.
As car guy, its true.
I also advocate for smalller vehicles.
Hello, I’m that car guy.
One of my buddies is a car guy and he recently moved to a denser city and would bike to work pretty often. Driving is supposed to be a pleasure for car guys and most of them won’t scratch that itch on a stroad or clogged highway.
Exactly. I love biking so much but driving my Miata top down along the coast is also enjoyable
Wish i had a coast close by… No wait that would mean more salt. I stay in the Mountains or Woods.