With only 1% trans, I think if we’re just willing to ACCEPT when they tell us we got it wrong, apologize and leave it at that, that would be enough.
Is it possible that any of them ever got it wrong?
The amount of people who detransition is incredibly small compared to the overall trans population, and even then most people detransition because society didn’t accept them and battered them down until they gave up.
I take that as a yes, people can be wrong about themselves and who they think they are.
Edit: My bad. Nobody can ever be wrong about themselves or their interpretation of reality. Sorry.
People can be wrong about literally anything. That is not an excuse to say “fuck everyone else in this group.”
If you extend this argument, we shouldn’t believe what anyone tells us about absolutely anything because they might have made a mistake. Truly a great basis for human society.
Why would you presume that questioning someone’s beliefs would mandate to treat them like shit? What a bizarre worldview. Everyone deserves to be treated with kindness and respect, whatever they believe.
But your beliefs about the world do not dictate my beliefs about the world. That is surely not a hard concept to grasp?
Because there’s an explicit bias in your questioning. You wouldn’t question if I’m really cis-hetero, but you would question of I’m reeeeeeeeally gay or trans, even thought I’m sure there are more people who come up publicly as gay after having children than there are trans detransitioning.
This is the same as the maga mentality, where any man in a position of responsibility is accepted by default, but for women they demand justification for the role.
Isn’t there an explicit bias in your statement? I think it’s kind of relevant that the vast, vast majority of humans don’t even consider this stuff, because they take no issue with accepting that they are men or women. Is that wrong? Are people wrong to think that it’s ok to just be what you are? I genuinely don’t get it.
By far, by every metric, people are divided into men and women. There are rare exclusions, and those people should be treated just as well as everybody else. It doesn’t matter who they love or what they identify as. They are humans as every human, but it’s bizarre to demand that the totality of humanity abandon their intuitive instincts about masculinity and femininity.
I mean by your own argument, surely normal “CIS” people (whatever that means, I genuinely don’t know, I don’t keep up with ideological abbreviations) also have a right to be heterosexual women and men. Are they not allowed to believe what people have believed for literally millions of years? I find that offensive. I extend you the courtesy to believe to be whoever you wish, and I acquiesce. Surely you should be able to do the same, otherwise you’re just dictating your beliefs and demanding everybody accepts whatever it is that you say.
only 1% trans,
That’s the problem. You forgot that the left wants to pump this number to the levels of 10-20% before 2050
I think you have your numbers confused. The right wants to reduce trans numbers to 0%. The left doesn’t care about increasing numbers, only treating trans people like human beings.
Everyone should be treated with kindness and respect regardless of who they are, what they look like, where they are from, and what they believe.
That does not mean that everyone has to accept whatever beliefs anybody else personally has. Everyone is free to believe what they want. That means that it is both fine to believe something about oneself, and fine not to believe what someone else believes about themselves.
they do?
If that means more people have a voice, then I’m all for it.
That’s pretty much how it already works. It’s just that the pressure to make the “correct” choice is fucking crazy.
For some of us we didn’t know there was a choice
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This is a straight up childish answer. It’s basically “boooo! you dumb!”, what is that? Are you incapable of having a civil argument or do you simply refuse to have one?
Have I said anything irrational or hateful or incomprehensible?
Have I said anything irrational
Yes
or hateful
Yes
or incomprehensible?
Yes, yes, YES
To say that transgenderism is a choice is to argue that it’s not a result of anomalous brain development, and is instead an ordinary delusion, no different than believing you’re Jesus Christ. Which implies than gender-affirming care is harmful.
I suspect that’s not what you meant.
Why would someone not be able to choose their gender. Gender is a social construct. Of course people can choose. People can choose to be gay too, if they want. People have free will, don’t they?
It’s not really that it’s a choice to not be cis, but yeah, we shouldn’t assume people’s gender at all imho until they tell us themselves (and as children can’t tell us until they’re older don’t assume until they’re older), and even when they do it shouldn’t need to affect stereotypes or the way we grammatically refer to them or anything, just maybe what body they want to have and who can be attracted to them
Why would you trust anything someone says about themselves outright? What if they’re crazy? What if they’re lying? What if they’re wrong? Is that impossible, or does every person on Earth have perfect knowledge of themselves and their true selves at all times, and always speak the truth?
Chaos.
Developmentally, babies don’t even have gender yet. Gender develops in the brain between the ages of 2 and 4 (and keeps developing until the end of puberty). I don’t think it’s developmentally appropriate to gender babies. All babies are nonbinary, and we should encourage children to choose a gender and pronouns as a rite of passage on their fourth birthday.
I think it would be more interesting if you could change at will. Wake up and pick your gender like you pick your outfit for the day.
Can’t you? People literally do that. I truly don’t understand this game.
How do you know you didn’t and you just happened to guess wrong? Like you were like oh “seems cool” then your neurons grew in mismatched.
How do we know anything at all? How do we know that we’re not all just living in an alien simulation and in fact are multidimensional dragons from some parallel universe?
Let’s be real. Who would actually pick to have a penis?
Penis vs periods. That’s the ultimate battle.
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Can we do the blood type thing where like it’s O-Type?
Probably men
I would. Every single time the better choice by far.
Assuming there’s no major difference between men and women excluding their gender roles, I don’t get why would anyone want to reinforce the same system that oppresses them. Maybe it would be more effective to teach people that their gender has nothing to do with the person they are instead of pushing transgenderism to little children who can’t even conceptualize the concept of gender yet
“But you are transphobic heartless bastard monster etc etc etc” idgaf man a friend of mine died because of this. You’re playing with people’s life. If they really don’t like the gender they’re assigned at birth they can do that later in life when their brain is developed enough to make conscious choices. Transgender people are like 1% of the population and 99% of the population is cisgender, it makes no sense at all to do that considering it’s an incredibly small minority of people. If percentages were like 40% or people, that would have been understandable but psychological burden and straight up confusion is too large and the good intentions don’t justify the psychological burden
