• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    A lot gets said about “destroying expensive equipment with cheap equipment” but Ukraine has deployed the “cheap drones” by the thousands just for a handful to get through. It does seem to be a strategy that works but it’s not exactly “we only spent $500 to kill a bazillion-dollar heli”.

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      8 months ago

      Where do you get those numbers from? That they send 1’000s and only a handful get through? They post 100s of direct hit videos daily, which would equate to 100’000s getting launched daily.

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        8 months ago

        The point is just that if we want to draw a conclusion about asymmetry of costs, we can’t count only the ones that have this outsized impact, but all that are produced.

        No one has the exact numbers. So all we can say is that the score is not $500/$15B

      • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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        8 months ago

        OMG the internet… I’m clearly speaking informally. Or do you think a “bazillion” is a real number?

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            8 months ago

            Your statements diminish the efforts and successes of the Ukrainian military,

            I mean - they don’t. They’re clearly having great success. I said that they have a strategy that works. You just want somebody to argue against. Argue against somebody who disagrees.

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                8 months ago

                I’m not saying you disagree that their strategy is successful, but your attempt at “putting things into perspective” are over exaggerated and diminishes the actual successes.

                Of course it’s an exaggerated statement genius - a gazillion is a a pretty dead fucking giveaway n’est pas? But the constant cheer online of destroying “expensive” equipment with “cheap weapons” is not as clear as some people are making it out to be. “A lot” of drones are just destroyed.

                I’m not diminishing shit. I’m pointing out reality.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Even at a hit rate of one in ten, which is on the lower end of plausible, drones are still very good value. Even if you take ten drones to kill one soldier that is still cheaper than the thousands of rounds of rifle ammo or hundreds of artillery shells it would normally take.

      • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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        8 months ago

        Yeah - I’m absolutely sure it’s still lower-cost in the long run. Also easier to produce “at scale” so the math works in the end.