• EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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    6 days ago

    B12 is readily available at low cost. My B12 supplements cost me roughly 3 USD per annum. The money saved by a plant-based diet will cover this cost many times over.

    This is a solved problem.

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    6 days ago

    Weird. I’ve been vegan for a decade and not dead yet.

    I was more actively suicidal when I ate animals than when I stopped

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      Weird. I’ve been vegan for a decade and not dead yet.

      Just you wait! Vegans only have a life span of 82 years on average (depending on your country) your time will come, and when it does, veganism will be to blame!

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    7 days ago

    It feels irresponsible to use that headline and not mention that most vegans don’t go insane. Because some people actually do seem to think compassion diets kill you, despite the obvious empirical evidence to the contrary.

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    7 days ago

    Posh girl kills herself, family and courts read her personal diaries in order to blame veganism.

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    Usual BBC slant on anything vegan. They are consistently doing their best to make avoiding animal products seem dangerous.

    Nooch FTW. B12’s important for vegans to consider, but a vegan diet doesn’t make a person “delusional”… B12 deficiency does.

  • x00z@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Vitamin B12 is found in meat, fish, eggs, dairy products and specially fortified foods, and, according to the NHS, a deficiency can lead to psychological problems.

    B12 is supplemented to the animals so in reality these are also fortified foods.

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    7 days ago

    Sad to see this play out again. Lots of people are deficient in B12 and various other essential nutrients. The worst part from my perspective is obviously the loss of life, but the second worst is how easy this is to fix. I am by no means a vegan, I definitely eat my fair share of meat and eggs, but B12 deficiency is easy enough to get, especially if you eat a lot of processed foods or have a mono diet, eating the same thing every day.

    For B12 I would recommend nutritional yeast. It gives a cheesy sort of flavour and can be added to foods like beans, refried beans, ragu/bolognaise, various pasta dishes, the list goes on. A fairly small amount packs a lot of B vitamins and you can have quite a bit without any issue. It also keeps very well, just requiring an airtight container and maybe a dessicant packet for longer term storage.

    If you take some tapioca starch and add it to water then slowly reduce it you can make a really nice cheese sauce substitute, very similar to Mac and cheese. Nutritional yeast adds the full flavour and colour, making it actually tasty.

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    6 days ago

    I suppose that limiting your diet means it now on manual and care has to be taken to ensure that it is adequate.

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    7 days ago

    Is “delusional” some dumb new way of saying “delulu” or somn?

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    7 days ago

    A vegan diet is a bit unnatural. And thus requires attention and education in nutrition and gut microbes and such.

    You can get pretty sick if you aren’t doing it right.

    A lot of people wanting to jump into vegan and even vegetarian don’t take the time to learn that there are some foods you absolutely need in order to counter the loss from animal products.

    Also I’ve had friends get sick as vegans from issues with gut microbes imbalance and it was fixed by dairy (yogurt). So they just went vegetarian and bought dairy from more ethical sources.

  • radiofreebc@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I have never met a healthy vegan…and i live on the west coast and have met lots of vegans.

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      In my experience, the ones who tell you unprompted that they’re vegan are usually relatively new to the diet and are more likely to be treating it as a short term fad diet than the more dedicated ethical vegans.

      I’ve known people 10+ years vegan and they’re super healthy and active. So its really just that the fortifications in the US food system are targeted at non-vegans so you need to be more intentional about your diet as a vegan in the US.

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      Anecdotal, no evidence. Did you get their health screenings? Did you have a baseline to compare it against?

      Or are you just typing letters on an online forum?

      I think you are.

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      7 days ago

      Occasionally they would come in the restaurant I worked at looking all pale and ordering a bowl of leaves. No honey-mustard salad dressing for them :(.

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    7 days ago

    Killed herself is a little different from “died”.

    But what they are burying here is B-12 deficiency is not limited to vegans. Anyone can have it.

    “Gray said Owen “reported to her family that she had bought an organic B12 supplement from Canada” and would take a daily dosage of 1mg.”

    Yeah, not enough. My doc has me taking 2,500mcg or 2.5mg.