Oh so a NYC apartment? LOL
Parking is always an issue, even with giant houses because they insists on 3-stall driveways making street parking vanish. They should just go ahead and make the street 16ft narrower since no one can park on the street anyway.
“love”
If I wasn’t married with kids and grandkids, i would unironically love this. Small area to clean, necessities in one place. The fuck are y’all doing that you need a fucking gymnasium of space to live in? Think of how much less clutter and cleaning you’d have to deal with!
But does it feel like an incarceration cell?
“If I wasn’t married with kids and grandkids”
kind of a big thing for us disgusting mammals
“Young people love them” would usually point to people who don’t have kids. Yes, there are people out there who do have kids in their early twenties, but obviously these aren’t geared towards them.
Stop buying big trucks, assholes!The only thing they “love” about them is they can potentially afford one.
That observation is common but provably false. You can talk to millions of people around the world who genuinely want or own a small house because it simplifies their life. That’s reality.
Obviously many people want 2000 square foot mansions. Especially in North America. But many others do not.
The interesting question is how big or small is good… For example, if you were living alone, would you want 750 square feet? 1000 square feet? Larger? And if so, what the fuck would you do with all the extra rooms? … Seriously, I have no idea what I would do with more than one guest room. For me, kitchen + living room + 2 bedrooms is more than enough, and it’s not like the bedrooms need to be very big.
I don’t know about that. A place near me did that thing where they made little apartments out of shipping containers. Like a dozen of them in a half circle in a lot somewhere. I checked them out. They’re $960 a month. Not including utilities. For a shipping container.
Also yeah no parking.
From what I read, the shipping container thing was a terrible idea because they aren’t that spacious especially when you still have to insulate them and guess what medal is really good at transferring.
The talk about containers as housing made me think about how at least here in Sweden we use modular baracks that can quickly be assembled at job sites, they contain everything from offices, to showers, to kitchens, to toilets, to personal rooms and more.
These have wooden walls, are insulated, can easily be put up with interior doors between the modules, you can stack them, some even have interior staircases.
These are insanely common here, if you need to cheaply house people, using these modular units seems far better than using containers.
I am sure there would be a market for redeveloping units into apartments.
Oof. There’s a place not too far from me that turned shipping containers into some experience motel thing. Also expensive. I’m sure there’s some novelty in sleeping in a poorly insulated, poorly ventilated metal box, but certainly not one I’d pay a premium for
Shipping containers are horrible for that. They’re metal so they rust and people that convert them tend to get older ones in bad shape. They don’t breathe so you have to worry about ventilation and sealing the metal before even building otherwise they start to rust even quicker.
Theres basically no cost savings to using one compared to building the exact same space using stick-frame construction. Theres a reason why stick-frame is the reigning champion for affordable homes after millennia of evolution. It’s really the best way (in the North American climate) to build a cheap house. Things like how comfortable, energy efficient, safe are all matters of addressing the local climate and there are solutions to all those issues.
- Cold climates get more insulation and the plumbing is ran in interior walls to protect against freezing, the foundation goes down below the frost line.
- Stick frame is infinitely customizable and even micro homes can be made (usually its an issue of the locality prohibiting such small housing.)
- Live in tornado alley? We can add a tornado shelter under your garage floor if you don’t want to build a full basement. Living in Florida where you can’t dig a basement cause the water table is so high but you want protection from hurricane winds? Well we can build with hurricane screws which hold everything together better and even add metal storm shutters to windows.
About how much overall cost does hurricane proofing a house add to buliding it? Would the same techniques for hurricane proofing work in tornado zones (barring a direct hit)?
Not really sure. Some stuff like the hurricane screws is something typically only for new builds. Stuff like storm shutters are fairly common add-ons in Florida. All these tweaks are added costs, adding extra insulation in colder climates adds costs too but the point is that modern construction techniques have evolved to address pretty much every scenario you can think of. Thats why things like shipping container houses are stupid.
I was thinking in terms of new builds. I learned about Intermittant Bracing and circumstances allowing I’ll build my next house if at all possible.
Sign: “If your penis needs compensation, you may not park here”
Oh look, problem fixed!
- are they living directly under a bunch of power lines?
- too close together
- looks both mass produced and cobbled together
- weird house numbers
- the truck seems to be labeled in some non-Latin alphabet
I guess the latter points to LLMs…
Did some sleuthing, came up with these:
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2024/02/13/lennar-builder-tiny-home-elm-trails-sales-success.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2023/04/19/lennar-tiny-homes-100-k-east-side-elm-trails.htmlWho stole the pic from the last article and put a truck in it while also messing up the house numbers?
If they used AI to jam the truck in it probably mangled the house numbers at the same time.
Dammit, I didn’t see your links and found them myself and was coming back to post them. But I have this at least: https://archive.ph/eLAIK
So yep, this is someone “having fun” with the idea either to be funny or to make some sort of point.
It’s Elm Cove, San Antonio, TX (Google Maps)
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So those are some of the skinny houses I’ve seen around here, as well as on Open Street Map.
Seems inefficient. Why not just build apartments?
Well for one thing “owning” an apartment is a borderline scam. You still have to rely on the actual building owner to take care of it and I swear to god no exaggeration 85% of every landlord that owns apartments is a slumlord. Doesn’t give a fuck about any of it and will raise “maintenance” fees or whatever year over year until its impossible to afford.
And you get neighbors that are fucking nasty most of the time.
Now exceptions to the rule are real nice, real expensive apartments. That you usually only lease. Most of the time if an average big apartment building is selling a individual apartments its because something is wrong.
At least with these you own them and no one can spend all day thinking of a bigger number for you to lose it.
Or even proper rowhomes with a concrete firewall between them. Looks like everyone would get an extra 6ft (3m) of floor width.
Not hsving to share a wall with your neighbor is probably one of the selling points of that design.
That’s what happens when you build out of cardboard. Somehow that has never been a problem in all the concrete apartments I have lived in my country in Europe.
You know how dumb you sound calling sheet wood cardboard? Would you let me hit you with a piece of the “card board” and then we can discuss the difference?
Do we get to hit you back with a brick? :D
No because I can tell you the difference between a brick and a stone, I’m just asking if I can hit you with a couple pieces of cardboard. Or maybe just interest you in some basic engineering?
We also use sheet wood in Europe frequently, so we’re very familiar with it. We just don’t use it for our outer walls and load bearing parts of a structure.
Did I not reply with hyperbole? Do you think that’s necessary??
That’s why I bought a farm. I wanted to get AWAY from people, not closer.
Those walls aren’t going to be stopping sound any better than an apartment wall.
edit: Jesus Christ people don’t understand that cheap ass tiny homes 8 foot apart with no sound barriers really is comparable to apartment walls because the air gap is tiny as fuck and sound is absolutely going to bleed through those cheap ass walls and windows. It is Texas where they don’t require that much insulation which would reduce sound in a cooler climate.
A well built apartment building is going to bleed far less sound. I have never heard my neighbors through the walls in my current apartment, which is at least 40+ years old when they built decent ones, and barely heard them through walls when I lived in post 2000 cheap as construction.
Here, for you too! this is how sound travels in our universe.
Yes, and the materials and build quality matters in my universe.
Those tiny homes are like 8 foot apart with no landscaping which makes the gap far less effective than your example.
Nothing says build quality and material quality quite like “affordable housing”. It must be nice being in a universe where everyone can afford quality and modern housing!
Yea but there’s 2 of them and they’re air gapped.
Okay bro can you explain how sound travels in your universe?
Through solid objects and the air.
These things look cheaply built which means the windows and walls are not soundproofed or anything like that and you will hear everything going on outside because every wall is an exterior wall. An apartment trades the barely effective 6 foot air gap for slightly heavier construction which reduces sound between apartments.
Source: Have lived in cheaply built homes and apartments. Currently live in a decent apartment where the sound doesn’t bleed over from adjoining apartments but does come right in through the windows.
As opposed to a cheaply built apartment? Why are they soundproofing the apartment walls and not the housing walls? Do you guys know we have building codes and standards?
I was thinking the same thing, like these are just inefficient townhouses.
I don’t think I could ever bring myself buy a home with shared walls again(condo or townhouse). I’d have no problem renting but there is too much risk in owning something you don’t have full control of
the american dream brooooother. also NIMBYs
Yeah I feel like love is doing a lot of lifting in that statement
Yeah its probably “happy that there is finally a house in their price range”
I love my shitty ass house, its all i have and its all i need. Honestly the foot print of those houses is the part of my house i actually use. The rest just stores shit or gets used for business purposes. Bills are cheap, cleaning is easy, everything is easy to maintain.
Yeah
People the truck is clearly there for size comparison, to illustrate the size of the tiny homes. I am getting chilly from the draft created by this flying over so many of your heads.
I wouldn’t put it past the driver of that kind of pickup truck to be a dick and park across the entrances to their driveway and their neighbor’s driveway rather than just park in their driveway. They don’t have any concern for parking lines or general driving rules.
Yea it would be more realistic if it was just up in the lawn somewhere.
So you’re saying the people in Texas that live in these do not drive massive trucks?
Where did I say that?
You said it when you posted on Lemmy.
Everyone here is deeply damaged. If you say you like pancakes on this platform, someone’s going to jump to the conclusion that you want to genocide the people of Belgium for having invented the waffle, because if you like pancakes you must hate waffles.
Why you got to be a breakfast nazi like that, lowspeedchase?
I have experienced the same vibe outside of niche communities, bummer. I did love my time in Belgium though don’t blaspheme me like that!!!
I think they’re saying the people with massive trucks would also park in their driveway
There are no driveways, and that truck was digitally added.
There are definitely driveways. This makes it clearer: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4976993,-98.3366750,3a,74.999992y,96.408623h,77.994026t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sB36ZAVzoMGHPmuy0GE72pQ!2e0?lucs=%2C100826475&g_ep=CAISBjYuMzUuNBgAIIGBASoKLDEwMDgyNjQ3NUICVVM%3D&skid=4f28f4a4-ed4e-4dfa-b4d7-d57e1f1abf2c&g_st=ic&g_st=ic
Ah, okay, so you pull in front of your door got it.
I’m thinking the town still makes it a violation to park in front of someone’s driveway?
bullshit. you could use any size car to illustrate the size comparison with a tiny home. the title of the post is talking about parking, and the picture shows a clownshoes emotional support truck-- parking problem
Those look like the ones being built on the east side of San Antonio. For reference they’re about $150K, which people love but are only 350sq-ft. They have some that are 600 sq-ft that are closer to $170K. That’s still over $400-$460/sq-ft which is insane. The small one has a loft that you have to reach via a ladder (not even stairs) and is only about 10-12 feet wide.
Tiny homes are soooo stupid
“Let’s take all the worst parts of appartments and suberbs, and put them together! It’ll be adorable!”This is the thinking that got us pugs people. Pugs!
It’s not a good impulse.that’s a wild amount of overhead wires (phone lines…?) too.
and all the house numbers are nowhere near their next-door neighbours’, it would be a nightmare to try to deliver anything or to find a friend’s house
Turns out they don’t build houses like this in the nicest spotsThe numbering is weird… what’s going on?
convincing gen-ai, maybe?
there seem to be a few letter/logo-esque things on the monster truck around the door & at the back, but on closer inspection, nothing’s legible other than the red x at the back.
Yeah I think you’re right, the silver cutout by the door is a newer Ford Fx50 thing, but the rest of the styling isn’t that close, the lettering isn’t right, and the new Ford truckss I think all have a step cutout in front of the rear wheel
And its front…”suspension,” is questionable at best.
Another poster figured it out. Real photo of houses - mangled by AI when trying to add the car
Gotta be AI. Just generated some wires and put random numbers on all the houses.
Who the fucks “love” to live in a cabinet made of wood with pale colors
people who are experiencing housing insecurity for decades?
That is a a correct narrative of course and I would most def understand how such places will benefit those folk with home insecurities, to fux an ongoing issues.
but saying “young people” love those of shitshow cabinets is just forcing a wrong narrative.
Real estate market is a fucking capitlist bubble that in reality should never allowed to exist
The ongoing issue of… not building enough housing for different income brackets and lifestyles? I love my lil shoebox. I need more yard than those people but its a good amount of house for a bachelor.
I have a house built in the 50’s that does indeed dwarf those…whatever the fuck they are. It was built as a 2 bed 1 bath, a wall has been knocked through to make one of the bedrooms into part of the main room…It’s maybe 700 square feet? The issues are, it’s badly laid out and it’s full of my ancestors’ shit. Also it’s badly oriented in a bad location.
I would be fine if the building was smaller, if it was designed by someone who’s head isn’t full of lead. If I do go about building my own home, it’s going to be smaller than this one. And the bedroom will have one dresser in it, not four. And I’ll have one living room with one couch in it, not two. And I won’t bother with a 6-place dining room table.
Texas is experiencing an influx of tech workers from India. These little houses are a major upgrade from conditions most of them are used to back home.
