• TurtleSoup@lemmy.zip
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      A WELL TRAINED AI can be a very useful tool. However the AI models that corporations want to use aren’t exactly what I’d call “well trained” because that costs money. So they figure “we’ll just let it learn by doing. Who cares if people get hurt in the meantime. We’ll just blame the devs for it being bad.”

      Edit: to add this is partly why AI gets a bad rap from folks on the outside looking it. Corporations institute barebones, born yesterday AI models that don’t know their ass from their elbow because they can’t be bothered to pay the devs to actually train them but when shit goes south they turn around and blame the devs for a bad product instead of admitting they cut corners. It’s China Syndrome but instead of nuclear reactors it’s AI.

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        Corporations institute barebones, born yesterday AI models that don’t know their ass from their elbow because they can’t be bothered to pay the devs to actually train them but when shit goes south they turn around and blame the devs for a bad product instead of admitting they cut corners

        Sounds like all it would take is one company to do it right, and they’d clean up. Except somehow, with all of the billions being poured into it, every product with ai sprinkled on it is worse than the non-ai-sprinkled alternatives.

        Now, maybe this is finally the sign that everyone will accept that The Market is completely fucking stupid and useless, and that literally every company involved in ai is holding it wrong.

        Or, and I know it’s a bit of a stretch here, but consider the possibility that ai just isn’t very useful except for fooling humans and maybe you can fool people into paying for it but it’s a lot harder to fool them into thinking it makes stuff better.

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        A WELL TRAINED AI can be a very useful tool.

        please do elaborate on exactly what kind of training turns the spam generator into a prescription-writer, or whatever other task that isn’t generating spam

        Edit: to add this is partly why AI gets a bad rap from folks on the outside looking it.

        i’m pretty sure “normal” folks hate it because of all the crap it’s unleashed upon the internet, and not just because they didn’t use the most recent models off the “Hot” tab on HuggingFace

        It’s China Syndrome but instead of nuclear reactors it’s AI.

        what are we a bunch of ASIANS?!?!???

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          It’s China Syndrome but instead of nuclear reactors it’s AI.

          what are we a bunch of ASIANS?!?!???

          Not sure if you’re kidding or just ignorant of what that reference is, but it has nothing to do with China.

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            if you put this paragraph

            Corporations institute barebones [crappy product] that [works terribly] because they can’t be bothered to pay the [production workers] to actually [produce quality products] but when shit goes south they turn around and blame the [workers] for a bad product instead of admitting they cut corners.

            and follow it up with “It’s China Syndrome”… then it’s pretty astonishingly clear it is meant in reference to the perceived dominant production ideology of specifically China and has nothing to do with nuclear reactors

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          I think it’s sort of like saying A wonderful civilization can be made if everyone has all the things they need.

          Well, yes. Getting there, though. heh. That’s a little tougher than it may seem.

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        oh are people just training it wrong? wow where did we hear this before

        sure is a good thing that you, wise turtle soup, could be here just in time to tell people the secret wisdom! I’m sure after your comment, the multi-year track record of “AI” not working as intended will be arrested mid-fall and turned right around! we’re saved!

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        a well trained ai can excel at very specific tasks.

        prescribing drugs isnt it.