The US president suggests that Jordan and Egypt should take in more Palestinians from Gaza

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/25231050

By Lubna Masarwa in Jerusalem Published date: 26 January 2025 10:44 GMT

[some very ominous statements from #Trump]

    • TheFriar@lemm.eeEnglish
      147·
      21 hours ago

      Yeah, whether or not these people who keep patting themselves on the back every single time some new horrible news about Gaza comes out want to admit it, the democrats are complicit in this.

      It’s the brain rot of two party politics. The idea that democrats are guilty of aiding in a genocide cannot exist at the same time as the idea that trump would continue and worsen the genocide. They can’t conceive of a situation where the vote for genocide or genocide was unpalatable for many people.

      And do they blame the people committing genocide? No, they throw streamers in the air and pop poppers because now they get to say they were right. It doesn’t fucking matter. People are being slaughtered. And our country is complicit. It’s not about blue or red complicity. It’s about the fact that we had no choice but to either shoulder the blame for trump’s deeds, or to shut up and vote for genocide participants.

      Why does everything have to be so binary? Is it really that complicated to say there was no good answer on the ballot? Yes, trump is undoubtedly worse. But the fact that we weren’t given any good options to vote for is not on people who couldn’t stomach looking the other way and saying “well, yeah they may be advocating for continuing to aid in genocide, but…”

      We all get it. We’ve always gotten it. We didn’t vote for trump. The people who literally thought trump was going to fix the situation and DID vote for him are to blame. But the democrats are to blame for 99% of their own loss. The sooner people stop trying to high road people who couldn’t stomach the choice, the sooner we can be to fuckin doing something about it. And the sooner we can all admit we were given a fuckin shit sandwich or a diarrhea smoothie to choose from, the sooner we can find some fuckin class solidarity. Stop blaming the underclass for being beholden to the ownership class. That’s not our choice. Driving a wedge between the other people who—according to those who keep cheering themselves on—apparently want to see the genocide end is not helping anyone but the people who can’t stop congratulating themselves—well, themselves and the ownership class committing the genocide.

    • markko@lemmy.worldEnglish
      166·
      23 hours ago

      Exactly. I feel sorry for everyone in the US who has to live through another Trump term, but from my outsider perspective the Dems really screwed themselves on this one.

      • small44@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2112·
        23 hours ago

        I don’t feel sorry for most. They have decades before trump to work of a multi party system, instead most keep voting for the same two terrible parties and blame 3rd party voters instead

    • ModestMeme@lemm.eeEnglish
      2333·
      24 hours ago

      Hamas could have not done that attack or given up the hostages when it was clear what a strategic blunder said attack was… Hezbolla figured it out real quick and didn’t join the attack as they had promised. Meanwhile, US protests have virtually disappeared since Election Day, as if the point was about disenfranchising Democrats and little to do with Gaza. To this day, people who are so concerned about “genocide” don’t say shit about Sudan… Anyway, you can carry on all day about what Democrats should have done and it’ll still be true that Biden or Harris was Gaza’s best case scenario in terms of practical action vs Trump and his goons.

      • markko@lemmy.worldEnglish
        124·
        23 hours ago

        I don’t think you understand the point of the protests. People don’t want their government funding and supplying the weapons for a genocide.

        What would a protest about Sudan achieve if your country has no involvement in it?

      • distantsounds@lemmy.worldEnglish
        117·
        23 hours ago

        No, the protests have not stopped. You can stop with the whataboutism though. Not even gonna bring up the Uyghurs, sheesh

        • ModestMeme@lemm.eeEnglish
          522·
          23 hours ago

          Ah yes, whataboutism as the answer to any uncomfortable comment. So tell me where and when these protests are occurring. I used to see them weekly in my city, block-long marches down popular streets. They used to block freeways and bridges and college administration buildings were occupied. Did the pre-election protests ever once target a Trump rally? Or any Republican?

          Will people take to the streets now to protest Trump and his Republican Congress’s stance on Gaza? Will the people do anything now that the Democrats have lost?

          • distantsounds@lemmy.worldEnglish
            83·
            23 hours ago

            You obviously don’t organize or show up for protests. You’re asking will people show up? lol we’ve been showing up, I suggest trying it, because this is written like someone who’s never been

            • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              5·
              23 hours ago

              If the only people who know about the protests are the ones in them, what good are they? The whole point of a protest is to be seen. The fact that we’re not seeing them is a valid critique against their efficacy.

            • ModestMeme@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              19 hours ago

              Thanks for the link. It seems the bulk of these recent protests are just meetings at a local storefront or a “banner drop” involving only a handful of people. The street marches, building occupations, and bridges closures that required hundreds of people are simply done.