• cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    If you want to do stem in another country there are only two choices that make sense: Britain and Germany. Everywhere else is either difficult to immigrate to in terms of culture, language, policy, or just doesn’t have a critical mass of scientists and engineers. Some of the other western European countries are pretty good too, but they aren’t as good as the two I mentioned.

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      15 hours ago

      I’m from the netherlands and educated foreigners always mention how easy it is to migrate here because so many of us speak English. I’ve heard the same of scandinavian countries. Would you say they are a worse choice if you want to do stem? Just curious.

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        11 hours ago

        My friend moved there with her husband after grad school. They had two STEM PhDs.

        They couldn’t hack the whole ‘isn’t being normal weird enough’ conformity thing.

    • bob_lemon@feddit.org
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      13 hours ago

      People tend to underestimate the need for speaking German in Germany though. Depending on your location and social circle, you might not need much of it day to day. But certain administrative stuff definitely requires a decent understanding (and you really don’t want to misunderstand letters from the government).

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        9 hours ago

        Genau! Having had to very slowly translate documents from the government, consulates, and Deutsche Bahn, I am acutely aware of how much not knowing the language is a hurdle.

        We’re working on learning German fast. While I’ll be in the Berlin area, so daily life can be mostly in English for a while, we need to integrate and the language is a huge part of that.

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      17 hours ago

      Wonder if they have use for Ms and bS majors in stem, like biotech or cmb

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        7 hours ago

        BioNTech, the German company that actually developed the Pfizer Covid vaccine, has a bunch of open job listings. So yes, they have a need for people with that skill set. Most of the jobs seem to require German language skills, but not all of them.

        And if the most famous German biotech startup is looking for people, then there are bound to be even more lesser known companies also searching.

      • azimir@lemmy.ml
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        9 hours ago

        Yes. It all boils down to getting a job offer, but those are fields and qualifications with possibilities.