• groet@feddit.org
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    22 小时前

    Yes, the country known for driving scooters instead of cars will start buying SUVs that don’t even fit the streets in many cities

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            *banh mi

            But yes, so very delicious. So fresh too.

            SUVs won’t work in Vietnam, not when you have Grab and scooters everywhere. It might become a rich person thing to drive around in those awful yank tanks but that’s hardly a market.

            This just sounds like the VN government is just making a nothing deal sound good for Trump. Americans paying tariffs for incoming VN products versus Vietnamese paying nothing for incoming American SUVs? A product that most Vietnamese won’t find useful at all?

            Ugh.

            I want some bread now…

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              Oops, wrong spelling!

              But uh, yeah, I agree, Trump got played, SUVs will take off in Vietnam as well as McDonalds did.

              Trump is an actual idiot.

              Not like, ad hom insult idiot.

              He is just actually an idiot.

              He still doesn’t understand what a trade balance even is, or that services/digital goods we export aren’t part of that number.

              He’s a spoiled brat that’s gotten as far as he has by being an abusive narcissist who csn just buy his way out of everything with daddy’s money.

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              17 小时前

              Literally banh mis and other Vietnamese basically street food, pho, stuff like that, is why McDonalds didn’t take off.

              Vietnam has some truly tasty and cost effective cuisine, and McDonalds was largely only eaten by corpo types just as a flex of how much money they have.

              Its less nutritious, less tasty, and more expensive than what the Vietnamese have been eating for 100s, 1000s of years.

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                From what I understand, it’s all pretty cheap too. So the profit margins for McDs were probably thinner.

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                  Last time I read a breakdown report on it, yeah, it was something in the range of…

                  A typical street vendor banh mi has more actual like weight of food in a sandwich than a McD borgor, and the McD borgor is also between 2x to 4x as expensive, depending on exactly where you are in Vietnam.

                  Also, lol, the vastly most profitable part of a McD meal is the soda, and then fries.

                  Like a drink that costs you $3.00 at McDonalds costs them fractions of a penny.

                  And… HFCS soda just has not worked too well in any Asian markets, basically.

                  Thats how you end up with like, Diet Cucumber Coca Cola in Japan, lol, a lot of Asia already also has a lot of great drinks, such as boba tea… and just actual tea, etc.

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        …what? Being good off-road, or on bad roads, is [supposed to be] the entire point of SUVs.


        Edit: Okay, okay, I get it. Language changes and “SUV” doesn’t mean what I want it to mean. I’m well aware that I’m No True Scotsman-ing, but that doesn’t make me any less mad about it! 😠

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        A truck maybe. Most SUVs are just big chunky road cars.

        SUVs are supposed to be trucks with seats in the cargo area!

        first-generation Toyota 4Runner, a real SUV, shown with the top removed so that it looks like a pickup truck with a seat in the cargo bed

        All the car-based junk they build these days aren’t real SUVs, and shouldn’t exist because they’re objectively inferior to station wagons and minivans.

        Every SUV ought to be an acutally-off-road-capable one, and the only people who should buy them are ones who actually take them off-road.

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          With their weight and the lower profile tires that come stock, and how they’re kinda just like regular cars but bigger in every way except where it counts, they really aren’t. Their single big advantage is the ground clearance but many actually have bodies that come surprisingly low. One the OG Ford Rangers would be great, but only if it had 4x4 because all those RWD only trucks, especially when they have nothing in the back, are essentially worthless due to the total lack of traction. They’re also super long, which makes maneuvering difficult in tight spaces so obstacles you could have gone around are now barriers you have go through. Besides, my BRZ doesn’t explode when it hits a pothole or touches a gravel road and in fact does quite well, even when it was lowered by an inch. Hilariously, unlike many vehicles the BRZ comes with a metal skid plate by default to protect the oil pan from the road.

          Trucks and SUVs are terrible. Body on Frame vans and smaller unibody work vans are incredible but most people are too stupid and/or insecure and vain to buy them instead.

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          Its true that around the origin of SUVs, yes, this was the point, and many could… not offroad as well as a specifically off road geared vehicle, but could offroad a lot better than a sedan.

          But, now its been 20ish years, and broadly, manufacturing standards / quality control are shit ass fuck tier bad, everything is desiged to break just after your warranty expires, and are also intentionally engineered to be nightmares to try to self repair, or just literally impossible to do this due to ‘everything’s computer!’ (unless you also want to hack your car)…

          … so those offroad capabilities are functionally no longer present, beyond I guess all wheel drive as a mode.

          Really, these days, an SUV is just a minivan that seats less people, doesn’t have a sliding door, costs a fuckton more, has better ground clearance, and ‘looks cooler’.

          Pretty similar MPG.

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          Supposed to be, according to markering. Isn’t. I think only half of SUVs sold in the US even have 4 wheel drive. This is fine because in the US most pickups and SUVs are just massive pavement princesses anyway.

        • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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          They’re just a classification meant to evade certain regulations to sell worse cars based on a few metrics regarding things like clearance. Given the point is to avoid having to make a decent car…

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          @grue yeah, so the commercials say. The ones I’ve driven haven’t been particularly better than sedans except higher clearance… making them more likely to rollover or break axles instead of scrape oil pans.

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      don’t be surprised when the capitalists see this obvious issue as an “opportunity” for development of bigger streets etc. ie: profit.