• MNByChoice@midwest.social
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    18 hours ago

    Not objecting, but what is the motivation of the Mexican government to do this? Have they done similar things before?

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      18 hours ago

      I don’t think they’ve done something exactly like this, but they have aggressively tackled obesity in recent years, going as far as labeling all foods with excess fats, salt, and sugar. It’s very visible on the package and it does influence what I buy.

      But this is the way I found out we’re doing this now. 😅

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      16 hours ago

      Government should probably provide the cheapest food and set the standard.

      However ideology like this leads to issues in reality.

      If a competitor gets lower prices would hint at some questionability. Government correction becomes suppression. Suppression leads to . . .?

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        However ideology like this leads to issues in reality.

        Issues for who? The consumer? Or the capitalists?

        If a competitor gets lower prices would hint at some questionability.

        It would hint that it’s a shitty product, presuming no foul play by the government and the product is not overpriced (doesn’t appear to be).

        Government correction becomes suppression. Suppression leads to . . .?

        Government correction how? From suppression I think you mean lowering their price? The scenario you’re laying out doesn’t make sense.

        The point of this kind of product is to be the baseline, no capitalist should be able to afford to offer the same product for less, because the government already has the lowest possible margin.

        You start by making a better product, and you can charge whatever people decide the improved product is worth. It’s a good thing that an asshole capitalist can’t market a $7 bar of chocolate when a very good quality one is $1. At that price difference, your chocolate better be amazing.

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          Don’t bother trying to correct them. They are convinced its a bad idea because its what they would do if they were in power.

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          So focused on hate and want you only see the consumer and capitalist, but not the worker’s back. However, all three shall crumble under such a fumble.

          The lower price would mean lower quality traditionally yes, but also implies cost cutting measures beyond that. Then creating regulation as a governance is expected the lowest prices. Did they circumvent regulations, taxes, etc.

          Government correction can overextend their force with control of the fields and markets. Just look at the farming or fiahing history in most nations who had regulated government contracts.

          The point of this kind of product is to be the baseline, no capitalist should be able to afford to offer the same product for less, because the government already has the lowest possible margin.

          HENCE, how could a capitalist compete, leaving only inferior or circumvention of regulations. Needing recitifying. Over extension of power leads to suppression of the workers, field owners, and consumers. With capitalism winning.

          Your last paragraph is ludicrous, start by making a better product. Reflecting in cost and raising the value of the product reaching the end user. Antithetical to your previous point.

          You have so little experience with the pain of the world that you can only dream your comforts.

          So what does suppression of the people lead to?

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        Uhh what?

        It’s called competition. Having a competitor in the market who’s goal is to keep people fed instead of making money hand over fist would both bring prices down and bring quality up on higher priced items.

        If we have to do capitalism, let’s get some not-for-profit competition happening.

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          In an ideal world, yes that would be the competition. However, in reality if the governance sets the standard, they can have almost always the cheapest prices. Wide reach, built transportation systems and probably incentivized contracts. Essentially everything that fucked up India with the British during ww2.

          Well if another company can go lower, it inherently implies they are skimping somewhere so quality is lost or regulations circumvented. Any government correction can overstep.

          Go start your not-for-profit competition. Farm for yourself, grow crops at home, reduce your footprint. Find community in your neighborhood.

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          When reducing unhealthy food in your diet, having less-bad alternatives to the unhealthy thing you’re craving can be a big help as your metabolism adjusts to the new diet.

          For a personal example I’ve been greatly reducing sugar in my diet and sometimes I just crave something sweet. I’ve found ice cream to be the least sugary option, and I consume less sugar by having a bowl of ice cream than I would by having a few chocolates. My wife has a significant soda drinking habit and when she really craves a soda she’s been turning to the Poppi and Olipop sodas as less-bad alternatives

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          refined sugars are processed by the digestive system faster and are turned to fat.

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        Americans have such a shitty life that they’re addicted to drugs and can’t stop buying them, but sure, it’s Mexicans sneaking it in.