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What year is this, why would they continue arguing instead of just taking out a phone and looking it up?
If I had to guess, she’s curious to see how big of a hole he’s going to dig himself into.
There have been times in the last, I dunno, 2 decades? with my friends and I have been having a debate or disagreement on something, at which point one of us usually would stop, pull out their phone, and say something like “why are we even arguing, I have the sum of human knowledge in my pocket.” It’s because we’re old and grew up before the Internet was more than DARPA NET or AOL. These kids have no excuse lol
A friend of mine got in a fight with his wife recently about the name of a bar that’s long gone.
He and I had worked in the neighborhood and had been to the bar a dozen times and had been to the other bars probably hundreds of times. He had met his wife years later and had maybe visited the bar a couple of times before it disappeared.
His brain had played musical chairs with the bar name on the block. She was right. I had a rather strong distaste for this bar and generally refused to go to it, so I remembered it clearly.
He had intimate details of the lighting, the unusual concrete bar, the music, the seating, the people we had gone there with. But the names were transposed. He had been looking up tax records and property names trying to prove her wrong.
So first, he got in trouble for not believing her, then he got in trouble for trying to prove her wrong, then he got in trouble again for calling in a lifeline.
Meat-based data storage is weird AF.
What is this, a Seinfeld episode?
Jerry: “How’d the date go last night?”
Elaine: “Ugh, total bust! We spent the whole time arguing about calamari!”
Jerry: “Arguing about calamari? Like fried squid?”
Elaine gestures there you go
George: “It’s deep fried, what’s not to like?”
Elaine: “He doesn’t even know what it is!”
Jerry: “Never had calamari? What a sad life…”
Kramer enters. Applause.
Elaine: “Kramer. What’s calamari?”
Kramer: “Disgusting. That’s what it is.”
Jerry: “We’re not talking about the same calamari here.”
Kramer: “It’s like chewing on rubber bands!”
Jerry: “You’re not still going to Bosco’s are you?”
Kramer: “I like Bosco.”
George: “Didn’t the health board shut them down?”
Kramer: “That’s how you know it’s authentic.”
Elaine: “Can we get back to my problem, please?”
Jerry: “I’ll tell you what, let’s all go out. Elaine, you can bring you can bring your boyfriend. I’ll show you all what calamari is supposed to taste like.”
Elaine: “Well, do the have caviar?”
Jerry: “Caviar? What am I made of money? Why caviar?”
Elaine: “That’s what he thinks calamari is!”
George: “Did you correct him?”
Elaine: “Yes, George, I corrected him. I corrected him for 45 minutes!”
Kramer: “Well why didn’t you just order the calamari and show him?”
Elaine: “We were at a coffee shop.”
Kramer: “Oh, they don’t serve calamari at coffee shops.”
Elaine: “…I know. I didn’t expect to have to defend the reality of what calamari is when we made the date.”
George: “Didn’t the health board shut them down?”
Kramer: “That’s how you know it’s authentic.”
I’ve had this conversation
Sushi Star, I miss you. Occasional food poisoning was worth $12 all you can eat. 😭
With the health board even.
Were you a writer for the show, what the fuck, this is so accurate
It’s shockingly easy. There was a whole reddit subreddit dedicated to inventing new Seinfeld scripts
I’ve only ever seen a couple of episodes and I was shocked at how well this script fit what I’ve seen.
I’ve only ever seen a few episodes but I don’t know how accurate this is at all.
I’ve only seen clips of it on YouTube and this also didn’t make me laugh so I’d say it’s accurate.
I can hear them. This is great
Damn. Bravo!
Maybe man’s Estonian. Caviar in Estonian is “kalamari” which means fishberry
“Fishberry” what the fuck, but also astoundingly correct
Dawn, the plot thickens! Shows that we shouldn’t be so quick to judge.
Having said that, if I was having this conversation in a second language, I wouldn’t be so intransigent about it.
Holy shit, imagine how frustrating it would be to be that guy is this was the case. Especially if one of the bystanders spoke up.
I’d like to hope they could all have a good laugh about it in the end at least.
An ex and I were on a bus trip to a city about an hour away from where we lived while we taught English in Korea. The subject of there being a “subway” in said city came up randomly. She said she thought she had seen one the last time she was there. I had been there more times than she had and said there was no subway. She doubled down. No, she was quite sure she had seen one near the university. I doubled down, I’ve been there quite a few times. There’s no way they have a subway. It’s not even big enough for one! It got pretty heated. This went on for some time. Feelings were hurt.
She was talking about the sandwich restaurant, and I was talking about underground trains. We were both right.
Nice of him to get the red flags out on the table early though!
Calamari is a red flag? People can be wrong…
His one visible mistake is not backing down when confronted with a different opinion and re-evaluating.
His one visible mistake is not backing down when confronted with a different opinion and re-evaluating.
Refusing to back down is the red flag, yes
“The only red flag was the red flag”
“People need to be perfect at all times and can’t make mistakes”
Mistakes are fine, it’s how you handle them. Instead of saying, “huh, I’m not sure if you’re right or not; let’s look it up, or just move on” he decided to adamantly defend his (incorrect) position.
Kinda like what you’re doing! Hahey!
Hey dude this is for you 🚩
Facts and opinions are two different things.
That’s just, like, your opinion, man.
Facts are all opinions until researched and confirmed. If you have two people arguing, there is no “more right” or “wrong” because it’s just two voices against each other.
Your “facts” don’t exist until proved.
Facts exist outside of you. Facts are already confirmed/researched and we just call upon them in conversation.
If an argument is based around a fact, there is indeed a right and wrong side. The accuracy of your recall of a given fact is the meaure of rightness in the argument.
If you can’t empathize with someone not having all the information in a conversation and hence arguing from a place of incomplete information, you’re definitely not someone worth spending any amount of time with…
Maybe you should back down and re-evaluate
Says the person fighting for the last word?
How did you get that from what I said?
Here lemme flip the script on you. If you can’t listen to someone and absorb information without immediately conjuring negative assumptions about them, you might not be fun to be with either.
The point was that facts are facts. The fact that calamari is not caviar is not malleable (unless you’re in Estonia I suppose lol). It’s just a cold hard fact that outside of Estonia they’re two completely different things. In this situation there is no spectrum of rightness. You’re just either right or you’re wrong.
I’m not saying that its worth dying on the calamari hill in public. Handle that debate however you see fit.
Someone’s words are not more truthful than another person’s. The only reason you see the calamari thing as fact is because you have the bigger picture.
Your lack of empathy, ergo, putting yourself in the shoes of someone with a certain conviction, is a red flag.
If you can’t realise that the dude’s opinion is worth the same as the girl’s within their conversation, then you lack critical thinking skills.
If he says A and she says B, only an outside observer can determine whether he or she is right.
I’m sorry but if you can’t grasp this simple concept there’s no point taking to you anymore, and you come across as extremely arrogant.
Somehow you’re the dumb asshole on two of the last two threads I read (the other one being about appropriate songs on a hiking trail). Impressive.
Oh wow, I had to scroll quite a way to find a comment that wasn’t in the negative.
You’re so fucking superficial that you can’t understand that people make mistakes, that goes for me and it goes for the guy being called a “red flag” on this post. Your levels of empathy would make Trump look kind. 🤡
Eat my dick, bitch
Seen something like this before. Guy was testing his date to see if she would correct him and she would fail if she did.
That’s… completely mental.
I remember reading Ron DeSantis (governor of Florida) said he did this on dates. He would say Thigh Food for Thai food. If they corrected him he wouldn’t date them again.
He’s married now and I wonder if his wife ever offers to pick up Thigh food for dinner.
Honestly (if I played stupid games like this, which I do not), I’d be more likely to date them again if they correct me. I want someone who will tell me if I mispronounce a word I’ve only read, or have a booger, or smell bad, etc. When it happens organically I always appreciate it unless they’re a dick about it.
I do love some thigh food. The nectar of the gods.
I also love how he does the red flag ass version of this. He must be right. Not like playing mental games is ever great, but nothing more nail on the head than a Republican looking for subservience and weak will.
Sounds like the guy was doing them a favor helping them dodge a bullet.
Reminds me of that 4chan post where anon gets stopped by a stranger who tries to explain that Aluminum is the best metal. Anon tries to stay calm and explain the iron is the best metal, but the guy just kept going off about Aluminum and started talking about rust and ruined Anon’s whole day.
The concept of “best metal” without specifying for which purpose is pretty ridiculous, so to me the anon in your story is equally guilty of causing his own bad day.
Well, no.
The best metal is obviously bismuth:
I was going to go with Iron Maiden, but Bismuth is pretty metal.
I prefer metal of the Swedish Melodic variety.
This is the most fabulous metal
Especially because the answer is obviously Tin
Real tin-stans would call it antimony
I beg to differ
Aluminum is a weird choice because it’s almost always alloyed with other metals.
stranger is correct, aluminum is extremely strong and flexible
Brittle though
Strong enough to kick your ass!
That limbo bar don’t get any lower
Calamari? You mean like clown fish eggs?
Happy cake day!
If you need to Well, actually… on your first date, all your dates will be firsts!
Well actually, any subsequent dates wouldn’t be my first ever date /s
Keep this up and we’ll upgrade you to having 0 dates.
So your first date will be all of your dates (just the one), thus all your dates (singular) are firsts.
You’ve just catapulted into the territory of square-root of negative 1 dates.
Now we need to know what OP thinks calamari and caviar are. It could be a 6’ situation where guys invite girls to caviar but order calamari. First hint is that she uses singular for calamari.
I hate to break it to you, but calamari IS the plural.
Of course it is. What kind of argument would I have if it weren’t?
But the singular was never used in the tweet.
“what calamari is”, two times.
No one has ever used the Italian singular of that word in English. As a loan word, it does not have to follow Italian grammar rules, and similar to pasta, it can be used both as countable and uncountable (i.e. a generic category term without plural).
That’s correct.
Okay, so we agree there’s no problem here?
I’ve been the side guy in a similar date in a bar. But instead of calamari is fish eggs. The dudes deeply held belief was the flat earth lie.
