• Deme@sopuli.xyz
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      The super rich are definitely the most obscene offenders, but they are also a vast minority. Those fossil fuel companies in your second link aren’t pumping oil and gas only for the sole consumption of the 0.1%. It goes into running the word economy, massively subsidising energy intensive and thus harmful activities. This in turn keeps prices artificially low all around.

      Yes we should absolutely eat the rich, but we should also not pretend that the average middle class lifestyle could stay the same. Hell, the entire purpose of the middle class is to be the subset of the working class that is allowed the financial means to consume products and keep the economy growing to the benefit of the rich and to the detriment of all.

      We should share what wealth we have better, and at the same time do with less.

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        The super rich are (…) a vast minority

        It seems to me that the math in this is overwhelming. If a single person in this minority emits in 90min more than an average person in their lifetime, we should take into consideration that their lifetime is made of many, many, many 90min slots.

        Apart from that of course I’m all in for sustainable living and redistribution of wealth for lower classes. Preferably abolish the class-system all together, of course.

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          I would be interested in seeing the methodology behind that figure. If Jeff Bezoz’s emissions include his ownership share of the emissions by the Amazon corporation (which is a major part of the world’s logistical system at this point), then no doubt, but getting rid of old Jeff wouldn’t eliminate those emissions. I rest my case that half of all fossil fuels in the world aren’t going directly into their jets and yachts.

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            I would be interested in seeing the methodology behind that figure

            If you click on the relevant link above, you will find the report itself. You can even download the methodology note seperately.

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              Yes, sorry I really should’ve sat down and done that to begin with.

              Billionaires’ lifestyle emissions dwarf those of ordinary people, but the emissions from their investments are dramatically higher still —the average investment emissions of 50 of the world’s richest billionaires are around 340 times their emissions from private jets and superyachts combined.

              Well, there it is.

              Edit: If there were 8 billion Amazon corporations, we would’ve shot past Venus a long time ago. The 90 minute mark seems to correspond to this. Getting rid of fifty (number of billionaires examined in the study) superyachts and a hundred 24/7 flying private jets would be next to nothing compared to the emissions from wider economy which they control, but which wouldn’t go away when the guillotine does its thing.