You loose a lot of money and a lot of life expectancy for very little fun and you smell bad after.

Also, you annoy people around you and eventually poison them too

Not worth it.

Alcohol yes. Less the older I get.

I’ve got an appreciation for bourbon and wine, so tasting those is pretty enjoyable. I also like a cold beer every now and then if I’m running the grill and it’s particularly hot, just not IPAs: I’m not that basic.

Tobacco no. I have tried it, but both my parents are smokers and I don’t like the smell.

I’m a millennial.

Quit self-medication years ago because it’s lethal, killed my whole family, and right now we should all be hoarding money to keep it out of the hands of the oligarchs and tyrants trying to seize our land.

I drink time to time, not always. Beer and wine mainly to taste and enjoy, and some raki too.

No. Paying money to ingest poison is extremely unappealing

I like to get a little intoxicated and find the different headspaces the drugs provides to be very relaxing and fun. That said, I get a really good calming buzz from a cup of coffee and some particular candy (vespebol) these days.

I used to drink a lot, mostly because it was fun and relaxing to start, then it became habitual. I drink way less now, I like the buzz and mindset I get from a few beers, but I no longer need the escape that drunkenness provides and I’ve grown to really dislike it. Stopped drinking for a little while, then eased back into it and experimented with it for a few years. I found that for me the cost of drinking increases exponentially per unit and the benefits flattens and become costs after a few units now.

I only have tobacco when someone has rolled a joint with it. Had my first while cigarette at 29, I got a really good nicotine shock from it, which I loved, but my lungs hurt for days afterwards so I’m staying away from tobacco, never tried snus either even though it’s pretty huge around here.

Don’t really smoke much weed either, but I’ll have a puff if someone is offering. I like the buz and calmness it brings.

Both. Tobacco (now vape liquid) was a product of extremely misplaced curiosity. If you’re young and reading this, fuck your curiosity, fuck what your friends are doing - don’t fucking do it. Buy a stress ball if you have that “Well [x moron] smokes when they are stressed, maybe I should try it” thought. Putting aside the health effects (which are reason enough), shit is basically a money hole for idiots and addicts. I really need to try quitting again (just with a lot of prep for the early stage when I want to kill myself and everyone around me).

I like beer and spirits, but I find anything above 3 standard drinks is diminishing returns. I did the ‘get dangerously drunk’ thing in my teenaged years/very early adulthood. Very happy I grew out of that, shit was getting dark by the end. Have overindulged since and every time, woke up thinking “I should have stopped at 2”.

2 beers is a nice, very lucid buzz for me - body relaxation and a bit chattier. 3 is when my motor skills start to soften in a perceivable (though still light) way. Experience has taught me this is a good place to switch to water/non-alc beer/tonic water for the rest of the night (if ‘partying’, supplemented with some weed.)

Now - a cup of coffee before heading out, 2-3 beers, and some weed? This is generally a good Friday or Saturday night.

Tobacco: No. Hopefully never

Alcohol: Only if it tastes good. No good taste = I don’t want it.
Example: I dislike beer. Sake on the other hand has a pleasant taste.

i drink cigs and smoke beer

I started smoking and drinking at 12 because I thought it would make me look cool and developed a pretty bad drinking habit in high school and college. After college it got worse and there were some severe consequences. Finally got sober at 30. I’d been trying to quit smoking for years but would always light up when I’d had a few beers and since that was pretty much all the time, I wasn’t able to quit smoking until I quit drinking.

I haven’t touched either in almost 27 years and I’m so much better off for it.

I hate everything about tobacco. Drink? Only specialish occasions.

I smoked cigarrettes and drank alcohol for years, started when I was fifteen and stopped cold turkey when I turned thirty. That was sixteen years ago.

Tobacco was way harder to stop since my habit was up to about two or two and a half packs a day. My alcohol consumption was very high too, entire bottles of whatever I could get my hands on. I would “pregame” at my own house while getting ready to go to a party or nightclub and that would be my first bottle of the that night. But it is no comparison to how the lack of tobacco made me feel.

Both my parents were/are heavy smokers, my dad had a heart attack due to his smoking habit ten years ago. I still miss him. My mom still smokes and she is not interested in stopping.

I now know I was self medicating so I could survive trauma and cope in school (ADHD and CPTSD is a rough combo) and a great part of overcoming substance abuse, was the love and care of my husband. He pushed me to want to be a better person and stay around longer in better conditions.

I used to. I have stopped. My life is much better without.

Gen Y here. Born and raised in a rural European community.

I used to drink (sometimes heavily) when partying when I was younger. From age 16 to 30.

Sometimes I smoked a cig while partying as a teen and smoking flavoured tobacco from a water pipe was pretty trendy during that time to, which I took part in at social gatherings, but never made it a habit.

In my twenties I also drank some beer or wine every now and then on my own.

But I don’t do any of that anymore. Very rarely do I drink a bit of alcohol, but since it triggers my depression and I feel really shitty the next day, I’ve stopped doing it. Just not worth it.

Non-alcoholic beer is a godsend though. I really enjoy beer for its taste and this stuff lets me have a glimpse of that without the drawbacks.

Fellow older Gen Z here. Atleast in europe to not drink or smoke is quite unusual. But i am the same. I just dont see any appeal in it. For me smoking is throwing health and money out of the window. And i dislike the taste of alcohole plus what it does to a human