• Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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    Almost like people who don’t want the government breathing down their necks don’t live in places that are government controlled. As someone who’s lived in NJ all my life, it’s the cities that are the disease. The economy and society in cities isn’t anything we should be proud of.

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      Ahh yes, as soon as you leave the cities, the government can’t touch you. That’s why farmers are subsidized by the government, rural healthcare is propped up by Medicare, and rural voters have been gerrymandered into a position where their (republican) votes are worth more than voters in the city. Jfc, how deluded can you be?

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      This is like a fractal of stupid. Any portion of it is just as stupid as any other portion. I suspect it’s a joke.

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        I remember that talking point about walkable cities being “digital prisons” and never understood the gymnastic logic people go for with those.

        Do they think that only being able to leave via a registered electronics-laden metal box on roads built by the government is “independence”? Do they realize in some countries even assassins will use public transit to evade attention?

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      In cities, economies actually exist. In cities, society is just a reflection of human nature and has fuck-all to do with government.

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        That’s way too generalized of a statement, even though I get what you mean. Things like infrastructure and mobility for example play a major part in how a city feels and develops. Tokyo, Amsterdam and Detroit are all cities but couldn’t be more different in nature, which in turn also shapes society and economy.

        To think cities cause humans to just be themselves is as foolish as the foolishness your post was an answer to.

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          To think cities cause humans to just be themselves is as foolish as the foolishness your post was an answer to.

          That’s not what I said. I said they bring out human nature. Which is a reaction to this idea that people in cities have bad manners or are somehow worse people. All my rural friends and family who didn’t leave think cities are horrible and likely think like the person I responded to.

          And yes cities are not all the same but my point is that they exist because there are enough people to have an actual economy. Walk down main street and any small town America and you’ll see the stark difference I’m trying to point out. No money in those places at all. Extreme poverty running rampant. Half of businesses shuttered.

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      I’m guessing you enjoy drinking clean water and breathing non-toxic air on a daily basis, no? How do you think that happened?

    • toomanypancakes@piefed.world
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      Almost like the people who don’t want government breathing down their necks are wholly incapable of actually supporting themselves without leeching off better, more functional economies. Almost like parasites.

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Actually i’m in favor of the rural communities breaking away from big government. They don’t want the government, why should the government keep them? They can take care of themselves …