So I see this game. Let me sum up what I actually see:

  • Reviews are mixed: not a great start
  • Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
  • 60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
  • 175 euros DLC’s: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there’s another 175 fees for content?
  • purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?

And they don’t understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

This is just a random example. I’ve quit playing COD after Modern Warfare.

To end this positively: I recently started playing Necesse which is really nice, and I started playing an old time favorite again after a long time: World of Goo. Both worth my money :)

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    Take a look at the reviews, and find this insanity on the top:

    need to be connected to online services even when you just want to play singleplayer campaign, and keep getting connection errors.

    Thanks, I’m out.

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      From time to time I’ll still look at their steam page during sales, because I’d like to play a blockbuster single player FPS where I can mindlessly mow down bad guys, with good story and production value.

      But the price point and reviews always turn me off… Do you have a good alternative to recommend?

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        If you want a CoD game, pretty much any CoD up through Black Ops 2 is still decent, but only if Activision actually let’s the game go “on sale”. Halo games have a fantastic story (up until 5 at least) and the Master Chief Collection is usually on sale for $10.

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      To be fair that icon doesn’t mean much of anything cuz you can just force compatibility in Linux and use proton, you just gotta manually do that in properties.

      This is probably windows only because of kernel level anticheat though so it probably still holds up.

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              Wtf with what reason xD The whole AI integration into basic things supposed to do basic things is stupidness of a dystopian degree. A bed with AI? It’s just a mattress. Why, just why. An AC just needs to cool to a certain temp. Why does it need AI, to get a relationship with it? What’s next, tables with AI?

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      I haven‘t encountered a Steam game that doesn‘t run on Linux so far. They very likely exist but anti cheat, third party account requirements, or an online connection while playing don‘t have anything to do with it as far as my games go. Same goes for GOG, Amazon Games and Epic Games on Heroic launcher. It just works as far as I can tell.

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        You are lucky then. If you play lots of multiplayer games you are bound to encounter one that doesn’t work.

        Most modern Call of Duty and Battlefield games do not work for example.

        According to areweanticheatyet.com only 40% of Games with Anti cheat work on Linux…

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          It would never occur to me to install CoD or Battlefield in the year 2025. So yeah, Guess I am lucky for having standards. Hopefully more people will realize there are other fantastic multiplayer games out there that run on a Steamdeck for example.

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        Not fully true. Yes a lot of games run on Windows… But a lot of them also run on Linux, in some cases even Native, in other cases using Wine/Proton from Valve. See: https://www.protondb.com/

        A lot of online pvp games do work under Linux as well. But then again… AAA games are the most problematic… because they just stuck, and get ignored by the devs/publishers. I’m looking at you EA!

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    Bro the CoD ship sailed years ago. They just don’t innovate and release the same shit year after year. Buy something else. I’d recommend Factorio.

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        I had an intermediary of Minecraft and really gravitated towards the automation, I then saw Factorio on YouTube and was like damn this looks sick. I’m a software developer so it tracks that I like to solve problems.

        Recently downloaded Satisfactory though to give that a try.

        I also believe I aged out of FPS games as I was pretty above average all my life but just don’t have the time nor inclination to keep grinding anymore to stay really good at them. All about solo games now and just vibin.

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          Only because I had to explain the differences recently and it’s top of mind:

          Satisfactory - Main goal is efficient usage of limited amount of throughput. Resource nodes are static, and efficiency is the name of the game. My favorites usually end up a spaghetti mess of belts, everything being fed the correct amount of inputs and all outputs being accounted for.

          Factorio - Main goal is THE FACTORY MUST GROW. Your factory need more input to run 100%? You could figure out how to optimize everything that comes before it, orrrr just slam more out. Resources are randomly generated, and while you can exhaust deposits, there’s always more on the horizon. Explore. Expand. Exterminate. ENLARGE FACTORY. Usually ends up in a beautiful mess of a factory with bots zipping around, and the power flickers every now and then when the biters think they are more powerful that explosives/concentrated beams of light.

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    You don’t. You play single player games like me and get to experience cool stories instead of dopamine lacking rage inducing PvP games.

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    This kind of thing is why I dont get excited for steam sales now. Oh, 50% off Recent AAA Game? Haha, yeah, half off the base price, but the entire game is DLC now and each of those is still full price, and there’s a dozen of them.

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      AAA is just cash grab, they haven’t been good or innovative games for a long, long time now. They are very good at marketing to the masses though and they have the pricing tiers laid out perfectly to extract as much money from people as they can.

      They start off with their massive price tag like $70-80, plus the deluxe editions for $100-120 for any suckers who want a fucking extra skin. Then after a couple months when sales slow down, they put it on sale for like 20% off, then a couple months more, its like 40% off and so on. DLC has kind of fallen off, as they get people stuck in the battle pass and cosmetic buying loop instead (people are crazy).

      If a AAA game looks interesting to you at all, you are literally best just waiting a few months or more, it’s a win-win, you either buy it it’s actual value or you get the reviews that its a disgusting broken mess or was completely over-hyped (it’s these last two 99% of the time).

      Steam sales are for getting them older games a bit cheaper, good indie games are worth their price tag multiple times over honestly so unless you are tight on money, I’d support the developer regardless of sales.

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    Maybe because there are still people who are not tired of Call of Duty, liked the predecessor and are still looking forward for a sequel and play it with their friends?

    Oh wait, this isn’t even the newest CoD? Probably they just forgot to update the prices. Probably forgot it even exists because there is a new one.

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      They dont want people buying the old games, even their 15 year old ones are still full price on purpose. They want you in the latest game each year, exposed to all the predatory extra-transactions, then they want you to do that again the next year and the next and the next… the games are not priced like that because they “forgot”, it’s a business strategy.

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    Reviews are mixed: not a great start

    More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It’s basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So “mixed” means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn’t, which is quite damning.

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      When I said this on Reddit I got downvoted to hell and called a hater lol

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    I feel like they could have called CoD Points something other than CP. 🤣

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    When people may get into a competitive game, data shows that they commit to it as their primary game.

    It becomes a part of their identity. You see things like Leage of Legends going strong despite a slow down in new players - people just commit to it for better or for worse, likely because most of the skills they’ve gained in it and friends they’ve made will not transfer to other games. Even other FPS games have different nuances that are non trivial once a player becomes serious about winning.

    Take Wild Rift vs Mobile Legends Bang Bang. MLBB is objectively a worse rip off of League of Legends and the Chinese game Glory of Kings, but it was first to market on mobile. Now that League has released their mobile version with immense polish and quality, many mobile moba gamers just aren’t interested - they’re already totally invested in their main game, despite it being proved in court that it’s a cheap copy. (Not cheap as in $$$ though)

    When you’re a kid, spending time on any competitive game will be fun (if you can handle the baseline toxicity) since you will start bad at most of them. When you get older there is a real cost to switching, you will not have as much fun until you build up the years of muscle memory that would be needed to even approach your skill at the previous game.

    Because of the lock in, if a competitive game finds a sizeable enough player base and lasts a good handful of years, the devs essentially get free rein to milk their cow as they see fit.

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    Short answer: you wouldn’t buy this game, given your valid criticisms.

    This type of extortionate pricing policy speaks to the general user base being nobs, die hard try hards and probably a toxic gaming environment. Having a barrier to entry in any activity prevents total idiots from entering. Consoles have made it easier for people who don’t understand how to operate a PC to play games but that necessarily means those games will be replete with obnoxious people. The advent of smartphones has done that for the internet.

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    I can’t say I like how /Games often circles around negative attention rather than positive.

    Activision spent billions on marketing so people will buy these stupid Ultra Editions. Even negative attention gets people thinking about and talking about the game.

    Instead, post about the cool indie games out that you think deserve far more attention than this battle pass slop. Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.

    Theres an asymmetric game out as a demo, called Carnival Hunt. It has a really unique aesthetic, and isn’t all that fun yet, in part because of the formula being refined and players getting better at it. But I like the idea: Rather than TCM’s idea of unlocking doors towards an exit, the survivors, “bunnies”, are trying to climb the floors of a large building, with each method of ascending a floor requiring various tools and making noise. Some ways up are harder to set up but easier to repeat, others only work if the killer is ignoring them.

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      Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.

      The reality is that we are on a relatively small decentralized reddit clone.

      We truly are the most exceptional exceptions.

      Most people cant even begin to think of caring about what we care about.

      Activision certainly doesnt.

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        This is the reality everyone on Lemmy, and even reddit, needs to face. We’re a minority of a minority of people. All the people who glaze and go nonstop about Linux? That’s not even half of Lemmy users, and you can find someone like that in just about every thread on Lemmy, regardless of context.

        We’re such a miniscule group of people we probably wouldn’t even register on studies about social behavior.

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            I’m one of the ones who doesn’t give a shit about that. On my PC I use windows, and my phone is android.

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            I tried to use OpenSUSE tumbleweed for about 6 months as my main desktop, but eventually due to many of the things I wanted to do being a real pain to do in linux, said fuck it and went back to windows whilst building a new high end gaming rig.

            It really sucks as I hate Microsoft with a burning passion, but if you want to play games, or use many CAD packages or make music, or watch videos (specifically with pot player for me, as it absolutely dunks on VLC unfortunately), then you just have to use Windows.

            I haaaaaate the obvious attempts by the new taskbar to control user behaviour.

            I hate the spying which it takes a while to turn most of it off, I hate… a lot, but the world is how it is.

            I’m very thankful for Steamdecks gaining steam so that one day hopefully gaming on linux will be possible, and maybe adoption goes up and then maybe other apps follow.

            Maybe the US collapse will have Europe mass switching, causing professional apps to also move over, especially CAD.

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              Bigwig studio is a great ableton replacement that is Linux native too. Made by some of the original team from ableton too iirc.

              Theres also Reaper if you want something closer to FL studio.

              I’m not into CAD stuff at the moment but I’m pretty sure there are some really good open source ones out there at the moment that are Linux native also.

              I’ve not had any issues with any games on bazzite or cachyos either. Although I don’t play AAA multiplayer games with the shitty anti cheats, which i think are the only ones that don’t work now. Master Chief collection is about as close to that as I go but that works completely fine.

              Keep in mind with bazzite and cachyos i also didn’t need to do any tinkering to get the games to work. They just do.

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                I’m not into CAD stuff at the moment but I’m pretty sure there are some really good open source ones out there at the moment that are Linux native also.

                Oh I wish, but the only thing worth anything is FreeCAD, and it is literally pain to use. The UI is infamously horrific, they’re only now sort of fixing basic issues like the infamous topology issue, and it seems like the devs are dead set on breaking all the standard UI and UX conventions of every other CAD program since the beginning of time, and its just pain to use or learn.

                Then it breaks your designs all the time too with cryptic errors.

                The other ones, some of them only have basic modelling capabilities, are completely programatic, and you have no hopes of doing things like FEA or anything like that, much less motion studies or the other basics you need to successfully make a lot of things.

                Its in a painful state, and CAD, if you even want to make a cent with other CAD software is bare minimum almost 1000 USD per year.

                Its very depressing if you are a more creative person and not made out of money.

                Keep in mind with bazzite and cachyos i also didn’t need to do any tinkering to get the games to work. They just do.

                I’ve been told this many times, and sure its true for single player games without awful DRM schemes, but you can basically count multiplayer games out, and many games that have awful phone home systems.

                Its ultimately like, how much do i want to fight my own operating system, and when people have a finite level of burn before burnout, how much do you really want to spend of that burn on an operating system you use daily?

                Its a heavy cost for not that much benefit, especially with so much on fire right now.

                Maybe Ill try again eventually if there is at least a competent CAD package available.

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                  Like I said, I play quite a bit of multiplayer games that work fine. Just not the shitty live service with awful kernel level anti cheat ones which you would never have caught me playing even back on windows.

                  The only notable games I know that don’t work are valorant and league because of their anti cheat, but i would never want to play them anyway. I’ve played marvel rivals on bazzite though, perfect experience, ended up running better on the same hardware than it did on windows.

                  I also feel like I have to fight against windows now more then ever. I currently still have to use it for work and it can be a nightmare at times. On Linux if something is wrong I can almost always find a way to fix it. Most of the time you’re shit out of luck on windows 11.

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      Instead, post about the cool indie games out that you think deserve far more attention

      That’s why I ended my post with the games I enjoy and recommend :)