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Brazil is requiring OS level age verification by march 17th, 2026.

New York about to vote on a law that would “require all manufacturers of internet-enabled devices, operating systems, or application stores to conduct commercially reason-able and technically feasible age assurance for users at the point of device activation.”

In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.

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    In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.

    COPPA prevents companies from collecting data on minors without parental consent.

    Sounds like the Epstein Class is still in charge of the FTC.

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      2 months ago

      Feels weird upvoting this comment. I have to remind myself. It’s not you I’m mad at. You’re not the one doing this. You’re just the messanger.

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      Yeah, this does not sound like it’s going to make our children any safer.

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      The irony knows no bounds, the one half decent reason age verification could exists for is so these companies have no more excuses to ignore coppa because now they can just pretend everyone is a consenting adult.

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        2 months ago

        The fact that there will be a signal implying a user is an adult will give all sorts of bad actors plausible deniability, perhaps even legal protection, for exploiting children, who will of course be bypassing it

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      Pretty much. They‘re essentially outlawing privacy so there will be no point in resisting. This is worse than Orwellian.

    • Tim_Bisley@piefed.social
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      I feel like there is a line coming with hardware and software and that will be the last of it’s type as the move towards subscription based services is forced onto everyone. Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets. It just means I’ll have my basement crammed with old tech and I’ll go full old man mode and stop keeping up with technological progress.

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        Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets.

        I’ve been truly stunned these past several days to find out just how many people, not even crazy facebook people but just average users on Lemmy, pay for a ChatGPT subscription.

        They just don’t care.

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          I had a mental health professional suggest using ChatGPT to make a day planner, it fucking floored me. We are not in the majority here and it sucks when that sinks in.

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    2 months ago

    13 days 😂 Tell me you don’t know how software development works or how operating systems are developed without telling me.

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    It’s gonna be fun when people are sitting around a campfire talking about how bad tech ceos, wall street backed corporations, enshittification, corrupt politicians and fascism all led to the extinction of the tech golden age… as they prepare their spears to fight the next wave of machines coming to harvest them.

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    So this is the thing I’ll eventually end up in jail for bypassing. I coul’ve sworn it would be drugs.

    Oh well.

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      Yeah, the fact that I can wave to a cop walking out of a store where I just bought some pot, but might face massive fines for not doing age verification for a pong game I wrote is insane. I mean, I still want to be able to smoke my pot legally, but I also don’t want to have to care about who plays pong.

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    Pretty soon you’ll be hearing folks say things like “why are you worried if you don’t have anything to hide” as if personal privacy has no value whatsoever. It’s a slippery slope!!!

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      @TriplePlaid@wetshav.ing @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de @technology@lemmy.world

      For me, a Brazilian, there’s something I must hide if I want to be employable: my occultist practices, my religion. I’m a worshiper of Lilith, surrounded by mostly Christian people. I literally heard “faux-jokes” (when people want to condemn someone, but wrapping the condemnation as a joke) tying my belief to “ending up in hell”.

      Even though my legal name isn’t difficult to find through my pseudonym, you can imagine why I use a pseudonym to openly express my religion. And once digital activity is tied to my CPF (Brazilian citizen/legal identity), and I’m definitely not buying the “anonymized checking” arguments, suddenly potential employers and buyers/merchants will know I “worship the devil” and will have yet another reason to refuse hiring me or buying/selling things from/to me.

      Also, some of Lilith imagery and stories involve content which is sensitive, subjected to those very “age check” laws, further making it necessary for me to comply to “age checks” whenever I want to read or write, observe or do drawings about the fundamental deity I worship.

      But according to certain people, “having something to hide = must be a criminal!!!”. Because they’re likely followers of some mainstream religion which is not socially persecuted, or religion isn’t something significant in their lives.

      Seriously. I’m truly tired of this world.

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        2 months ago

        Thank you for telling you story. I’m sorry that you are in the position you are in where you can’t freely be yourself around others.

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        It is a slippery slope, we just happen to have already slid down it most of the way and are imminently about to be falling off that cliff at the end of it…

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      Can’t wait for distros to post a disclaimer that this software is strictly intended only for use on the moon.

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        Better yet. Say that the software isn’t intended for any use at all and they don’t allow you to download it, but then leave an open directory with the images

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          “By downloading this software, you agree you are a very naughty boy or girl.”

    • chunes@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Remember: it’s up to us to make the cool cyberpunk stuff a reality. The bad stuff is coming no matter what.

  • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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    How on earth are they going to enforce this in smaller IOT chips? I just got an esp32-c3 for like $1.50. I highly doubt that things is able to run whatever bloatware they are going to require.

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      Hardware that can be manufactured on larger nodes can’t really be stopped, and the (black) market for both old and new free hardware will be big, considering all the things that will inevitably be banned. As always, don’t comply in advance

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    There must be some kind of higher-managed plan on this man. Everything seems to be so sudden and coordinated it just cant be a coincidence. I am NOT giving my ID to use my computer

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      A conspiracy of global elites? Pffft.

      That’s crazytalk.

      It’s not like Peter Thiel ,one time president and current member of the BILDERBERG steering committee , and a bunch of other dudes who worked at PayPal are solely responsible for the trajectory of technology…

      Or like some forum on economics somewhere in the world would coordinate economics, and make some crazy plan with a super unbelievably literal name like agenda 2030 with the dude at the head saying “you’ll own nothing and you will be happy”

      I mean… Crazy. Right.

      The rich should have already been filleted and cooked.

      • Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world
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        Haha imagine if they were all pedofiles, rapists and total degenerates too. haha. HA HA. No way, too crazy right? Pandoras box is open.

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          I know that at a basic psychological level, a person generally must be some form of antisocial/sociopath/psychopath,narcissist to become a billionaire.

          Does becoming a billionaire simply allow for/encourage more extreme levels of behaviors or are they predisposed?

          Is it a rite of passage/secret handshake, or is it just “perks” of being evil?

  • Rose@slrpnk.net
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    If the speedrun strategy is “introduce a stupid law, wait for everyone to go ‘holy shit none of this can be realistically implemented in this timeframe’, wait for OS vendors to just ban the use of the OSes in the country, watch the local industry as a whole to rally and petition the government to stop the madness before there’s a new dark age, repeal the clearly stupid law”, all before the California law comes to effect - I’ve got to say it’s a bold strategy and we’ll see how it plays out.

    Edit: Also, not going to upvote a Lunduke video - I’m glad he crams every bit of substantial information in the thumbnails so I can just not listen to him at all

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    One question:

    "On your first computer, how did you open a program?

    Load “*”,8,1 ✅

    program.exe ✅

    Double click the icon ✅

    “Program? Is that like an app?” ❌

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      Load “*”,8,1 - However, this would not open a specific program, just the first file on the specified drive (if I remember correctly). For a specific program, you would have to name the program.

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    theres no reason to post lunduke. surely we can get our info from literally any other source

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      Honestly? I’ve done a lot of looking over the last few days and he’s literally the only person I’ve found talking about the Brazilian law coming into effect in 12 days. If you have seen any coverage from anyone else, I would be really interested if you could pass a link my way.

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    Lemmy users upvoting Brian Lunduke is surprising. He’s very right wing from what I remember

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      People might not know who he is anymore. since his veer to the right hes become a lot less relevant to the linux community

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    Man, they really want to find out who they need to murder, don’t they?

    Because that’s the bottom line. Everybody understands that, right?

    AI is all about replacing as many human jobs with automation as possible, and the Age/ID laws are about tracking down anyone who complains about it.

    This is what we’ve known was coming for decades. It’s finally here.

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      I will literally pull my AMD socket A mobo out of the box and run windows XP before I comply with this bullshit.

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        Or switch to one of the growing number of Linux distros who have taken the stance of “not a fucking chance are we complying with that idiocy” and then just hope where you live doesn’t pass a law like this and those distros are forced to region block downloads for you 👍

        There’s also the worry that if enough places push something like this through, could end up being a case of a vast swath of the internet will just refuse to work without receiving an approved “Age Assurance Signal”…

        Or the bigger worry that this is the beginning of the end of proper human interaction with the internet. Access and child protection laws become so strict that only chat bot agents are legally authorised to use the internet and we all become beholden to these programs for everything from looking up a recipe to requesting access to research papers to help support your masters thesis or fucking whatever.