“You can’t handle the truth!”

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    What a coincidence, I got banned from world_news@lemmy.world for exactly the opposite reason.

    It wasn’t even something I brought up at all, I said something completely unrelated and someone started hounding me about it and demanding an answer, and I said that I hadn’t seen sufficient evidence to conclude it was a genocide.

    Then a mod posted some links, and I asked, “before I go through these, if I ctrl+F “Zenz” how many hits am I gonna get?” and that’s when I got banned. I did go through them anyway, and the answer was 18.

    I had also made a comment explaining how claims don’t get to magically subvert the normal process of scrutiny just because they involve the word “genocide,” and how, if anything, more extreme claims should be subject to greater scrutiny, not less. That comment was removed for “genocide denialism.”

    So, nowadays, I’ve learned my lesson, that as long as I’m on .world, all claims of genocide must be accepted unquestionably, regardless of evidence. You could tell me that France is genociding Belgians or that Morrocans are genociding Kansans, whatever, and I won’t question or deny it. After all, basing your beliefs on evidence means that you’re just blindly following, uh, whoever the claims happen to be about this time, which probably makes you an authoritarian tankie. You have to accept all negative claims about US geopolitical adversaries, without question, to be a free-thinking anti-authoritatian.

    However, my ban wasn’t for 30 days, it was permanent. “You can’t handle the truth” indeed.

  • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Really seeing (yet another) coordinated campaign against .ml. If all you can stomach is liberal slop, why don’t you just go back to reddit, where you’ll never have to encounter any politics to the left of your own?

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      1 day ago

      Neat…I got banned from an .ml channel for critizicing a mod that was minimizing '86 GOP horrors by saying they were to the left of modern dems.

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        1 day ago

        I probably wouldn’t have banned you for your comment, but it seems like you were minimizing how genocidal modern dems are by saying “GOP started it!”.

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    your post is just whataboutism lol

    enjoy crying about a temp ban from a single comm

    byeeee

    • pinto@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      Yet Hexbear cries constantly about how they hate that .world defederated from them. Are AuthComs aware of their hypocrisy or are you guys just that steeped in your own reality you can’t tell what’s real anymore?

  • stoly@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    lemmy.ml is filled with people who sort the instance by new comments and hit the F5 button nonstop. It’s why there is such quick and violent hate the moment you do not pay attention to where you are in All and make a random, unimportant comment.

    when I first got on lemmy, I went to .ml since that is where the devs were. I figured that it would be nice to be on the most updated instance. I didn’t know what ML was. I lasted very little time before running away. It’s shocking how insecure and angry people are there.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      I was on Lemmy for about a month before I figured out the whole .ml thing. I’m honestly surprised it took that long.

      • Psythik@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        Same. For my first month here I thought tankies were MAGA. To the untrained eye, it can be easy to confuse the two, until you look again. They’re just as ignorant and dumb.

        • Grapho@lemmy.ml
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          2 days ago

          To the untrained eye indeed. Horseshoe theory is the go to for anyone too lazy to try to actually learn anything about history or politics that’s not drip fed by their corporate overlords.

        • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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          3 days ago

          I think there’s a lot to be said for critiquing the flaws of our democracy, but doing so by adhering yourself to even worse authoritarian types is wild to me.

        • Pratai@piefed.ca
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          3 days ago

          They are virtually the same when it comes to how loathsome they are. The biggest difference is one of them has the strength of conviction to stand on their ignorance and commit to it, the other just likes to play pretend on the internet.

          • MaxLemminist@lemmy.mlBanned
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            3 days ago

            Remarkably how accurately you describe yourself.
            Ameriremoved blue MAGA selfrightious hypocrites supporting their imperialist cancer state as long as they’re not bothered in their banana republic.
            While at least red MAGAts proudly defend their evils.

            • Psythik@lemmy.world
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              1 day ago

              Giving MAGA credit for being anything but completely and utterly braindead is a wild take. Good job losing what was left of the tiny credibility you had.

    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      lemmy.ml is filled with people who sort the instance by new comments and hit the F5 button nonstop.

      Agreed. They’re as big of snowflakes as zionists, except they’re red fascists

  • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    .ml is pretty explicit on their “about us” page that they have a specific political orientation and will censor dissenting opinions.

    Now you have learned. Plenty of other instances that aren’t as heavily censored.

  • craftrabbit@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    Oh it’s another one of these. For as long as you’re on .ml, China, Russia and North Korea are incapable of doing any wrong.

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      2 days ago

      I can see giving China the benefit of the doubt, but giving it to Russia and North Korea is particularly egregious.

  • Pratai@piefed.ca
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    3 days ago

    .ml is a authoritarian bootlicking shithole. I’d advise everyone to block that instance the moment they make a new account.

    This gift wrapped itself for you, OP. Take it one step further and block those assholes entirely. Then, when you wonder…. “Where did all the Russian psyop bullshit go?”

    You’ll know.

  • bantering@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    The misconception is with what these pages are. They are not public forums. They are the personally dictated and directed blog of the moderators, they allow the public to contribute but have final say on publishing.

    Once you realize these are ignorant kids blogs it makes sense that you would get banned for trying to have a discussion instead of perpetuating whatever world view they are trying to spew.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Yup. Every sub I’ve visited moderated by a .ml user was effectively just their own personal soap box jerk off space.

  • LeftReddit2@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    A ton of people, mainly leftist, have an issue where their ideology starts and ends at “AMERICA BAD”

    I think Hasan is a good example of this as he has defended China and Russia and didn’t stop to think about why. Is Russia good? Is China good?

    If you do defend them, whatever. But don’t do it without a good grounding as to why. You can never define yourself by only saying what you’re not.

    You first need to find out what you ARE. Who are you? What do you stand for? What are your grounding, foundational beliefs and values?

    • Grapho@lemmy.ml
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      2 days ago

      A ton of people, mainly leftist, have an issue where their ideology starts and ends at “AMERICA BAD”

      Lmao. Nah, that’s the (obviously, painfully true) statement where you already stop listening because you don’t want to admit it’s true without a thousand caveats. I’ve never met a socialist who couldn’t elaborate, rightly or wrongly, in their many issues with political systems they support, let alone those they don’t.

    • nandeEbisu@lemmy.world
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      Not that he needs defending, but I do think Hasan does have a more nuanced opinion on China regarding authoritarian and imperialist practices based on more recent interviews, but he doesn’t incorporate that into his mainstream persona so people think he likes more than their coherent economic policy and even worse people seem to feel more justified in holding positions excusing authoritarianism and imprialism if it means a communist economic agenda is enacted.

    • eneff@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 days ago

      How much of a leftist can one really be if they are stuck comparing the “quality” of nation states without mentioning that they shouldn’t exist at all.

      • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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        2 days ago

        they shouldn’t, that’s why i oppose the state that i live in foremost. why should i listen to its propaganda about its enemies either?

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        Nonono, Karl Marx said western nation states shouldn’t exist at all. As soon as you’re the right kind of imperialist (not western), your nation state is A-OK.