Oct 30 (Reuters) - Reddit shares tumbled 29% on Friday, marking their biggest single-day drop and hitting their lowest level in over a year, after the company warned that Google’s AI-powered search was hurting referral traffic and could shrink its user base.

The online discussion platform still appears in Google search results but is attracting fewer clicks, as users increasingly rely on the tech giant’s AI tools for direct answers.

“When more than a million search referrals a week disappear because Google’s AI answers the question itself, investors are no longer looking just at the next three or four months, but at how much of Reddit’s audience it will really own in the years ahead,” said Vitor Madeira, senior market specialist at Capital.com.

Reddit warned that its daily active unique visitors could fall by a low double-digit percentage in the fourth quarter if referral traffic kept declining.

If current losses hold, Reddit is set to lose more than $7 billion in market value and Pinterest about $900 million. The two stocks have fallen about 44% and 23%, respectively, this year through their last close.

Reddit has a 12-month forward price-to-earnings ratio of 19.03, compared with Snap’s 7.53 and Pinterest’s 8.48, according to LSEG data.

Separately, Reddit on Friday said it has extended its cloud services agreement with Google through 2029, committing to spend $580 million over three years.

At least 11 brokerages cut their price targets on Reddit, and at least 13 did so on Pinterest.

  • KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    2 days ago

    Gosh. You mean making it harder and harder to access their platform without giving up anonymity is hurting their business model? Well jack me off and call me Betty. When will it all make sense.

  • luna@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    2 days ago

    Reddit’s failure was inevitable; once capital exerts excessive control, it’s time for people to leave. Everyone has surely had the infuriating experience of being bombarded by trashy ads on Reddit often with no human customer support available to address complaints. It has become a hub overrun by bots and scams; when you enter a subreddit, almost everything you see is just bots.

    • kreskin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      We really do need to get back to a tech landscape where evil ceos are shunned and their products not used. We have tolerated the spez, musk, thiel, zuckerburg, ellison, bankman-fried, elizabeth holmes, Kalanich (uber), baszuskis (roblox) types for way too long. They are all a bunch of mega pricks and their companies should pay a penalty for their being openly evil.

  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    2 days ago

    “When more than a million search referrals a week disappear because Google’s AI answers the question itself,

    investors are no longer looking just at the next three or four months, but at how much of Reddit’s audience it will really own in the years ahead,”

    said Vitor Madeira, senior market specialist at Capital.com.


    Personally I am glad investors are worried they wont own enough users.

    • Goolashe@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      Also, didn’t Reddit close up and start charging for their API because of this exact issue and related AI stuff? Spez is now mad that there are effects from what they implemented?

      I mean, what else were they expecting when they exchanged money for API access to a search engine that explicitly pushed their AI “answer” feature? I’m bewildered at how so many companies complain about not being able to see the consequences of their own actions that were told to their face would happen.

      At this point there is no way this isn’t intentional from the start.

      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 days ago

        Reddit used to be a great free to use information source and community creation tool.

        It was counter to the commoditization of both.

        It was inevitable that capital interests would destroy it.

  • Blaster M@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    218
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    Too many people block ads on reddit -> block the api -> people use google search and vpns -> block search and vpns unless logged in -> people use ai instead of search to find reddit answers because reddit blocks everything –> block access even harder -> complain no one visits the site anymore -> [we are here]

      • lepthesr@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        3 days ago

        I honestly don’t know anyone that does anymore. I tried the bs for about 5 sec before I get prompted for ads for their app.

        Not sure how that pops up with origin

        • zeejoo@thelemmy.club
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          3 days ago

          I still log in every now and then on a browser to read the sports subs because lemmy sucks for that, but I refuse to install that cancer of an app.

          • merc@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            2 days ago

            I agree Lemmy sucks for sports subs, but I refuse to log in to Reddit. Because I refuse to login it has basically become unusable – so I don’t use it.

      • zen@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        40
        ·
        3 days ago

        Yep they hand out auto suspends and bans like it’s free candy.

        • zeejoo@thelemmy.club
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          3 days ago

          I once got permabanned for harassment because I called a dude a dumbass in 2 different threads on a very small <1k daily users subreddit and they said I was “following him” and making “personal attacks”

      • Vespair@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        Or shadowban you if you ever comment anything more divisive than “This content is great!”

        Reddit used to be a place for discussion a long time ago, now it’s a place for bots and idiots to practice the form of discussion without ever holding any substance

        • Reddit used to be a place for discussion a long time ago, now it’s a place for bots and idiots to practice the form of discussion without ever holding any substance

          This describes 90% (or more) of the modern internet.

          Allowing stupid people to form large groups was a mistake. Sorry George. I know you warned us.

      • joeschmoe@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        3 days ago

        Oh yes, I know of that very well. The admins have crazy trigger fingers.

        Also, the experience of new users is just utter garbage. When I finally successfully sidestepped their detection of ban evasion (clear cookies + random user agent + VPN), I noticed how terrible the new-user experience is. I am supposed to gain karma to post anything, but I can’t get karma, because my account is too new and every post and comment is hidden or automatically removed. ??? BUT THE ACTUAL BOTS ARE JUST GIVING EACHOTHER KARMA! This bot prevention bullshit hurts only humans. Utter garbage website, it’s doomed, but I wish it’d die faster.

        • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          i created an acc after 1+years of ashadowbanned, i only occasionaly go on niche subs, then after a while i use powersuite to nuke the comments.

    • Bobby Turkalino@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      3 days ago

      That damn “better on the app” popup completely freezes Firefox Focus on iOS.

      There are times where I search something, there appears to be a reddit thread with a descriptive answer so I tap on it, I scroll down a couple swipes and boom, popup freezes the app. Can’t do anything to make the back button appear after scrolling hid it. All I can do is force close.

  • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    2 days ago

    Whats the point to appear in google search, when you gonna lock your platform to have accounts to view the content… Just asking.

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    Good.

    I enjoyed pre-COVID Reddit, where you could find all political stripes and religions, a virtual “melting pot”.

    Today? It’s like Lemmy but with advertising. So much more homogeneous, and the moderators are deranged. Let them rule their dying empire with furry fists, have at it, it’s yours now

    Reminded now, right before I left Reddit I was banned from r/pics for being a member somewhere that they don’t approve of, I can no longer recall which sub but it was lightly Republican flavored (my favorite political adversaries).

    Why would they care? How would they know what the sub was intolerable without joining themselves? Why didn’t they ban themselves then? They were despoiled, like me.

    Senseless. I haven’t visited since the login requirement, piss off

    • VeniVerminiVomui@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      2 days ago

      Today? It’s like Lemmy but with advertising. So much more homogeneous

      Might have been a while since you visited it then, it’s getting increasingly absurdly right wing - mostly bots I’m guessing. Pretty much all of the main /r/all subs

      • SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        2 days ago

        Yep. Recently there was a post about the UK looking at raising the minimum wage to about £13.20 (17.50USD) an hour. On reddit it was endless comments complaining that minimum wage is too high. Most unhinged take I saw was that this will make the cost of living worse.

      • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        Yeah I haven’t been there for a couple of years. When I left it was a Democratic stronghold that had banned The Donald. Not as hard left as Lemmy, but close.

        My ideal place would be “neutral” with all flavors, but I haven’t found anything like old Reddit yet, so I am taking a sabbatical here for as long as I am tolerated (probably another week)

        • kreskin@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          Your posts here get banned for anti muslim hatred and terroristic zionism. Hopefully it wont take a whole week for a siteban for people like you.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 days ago

      The moderators on Reddit have been a pain for a long time. Here was always so much drama

  • braindead_hottie@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    2 days ago

    I haven’t used Reddit with an account for months because they’re dead set on attaining my ID just to give me access to my damn account

    • I_Jedi@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      1 day ago

      I found that, if they’re asking for ID, you’re about to get banned. They do that to make ban evading harder.

        • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          Do people on lemmy have memory loss? This isnt the first time someone claimed something old is actually new

          People have been saying that the reddit app is unusable when the API pricing was announced

          • noodlejetski (he/him)@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            2 days ago

            it’s always been total garbage, especially compared to the third party apps. some of them supported some native reddit features better than the official app.

      • OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        3 days ago

        They’re appealing to a different generation users. New reddit users think old reddit is ancient outdated design. They like the new design because it’s oriented to the internet generation that uses mobile UIs.

        • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          3 days ago

          I hate it on browser too and is why I use redlib. So much wasted space with side padding filled with useless stuff on an already small screen.

        • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          its for the tiktok generation. this actually goes way back, when they were doing doomscrolling on another platform i was in before it was permanently shuttled.

        • tempest@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 days ago

          Yeah old Reddit was locked up a few months ago. They don’t want people scraping and most new users use the ‘new’ interface.

    • Buffalox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      That might actually be an active strategy.
      Making the UI worse so people have to click around more. Makes opportunity for more advertising, and makes it look like people are engaging more.
      Never really thought about it that way.

    • Thales@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      3 days ago

      You say that…

      I still use the app for 1 specific thing and let me tell you the iOS app (presumably their largest audience) is GARBAGE. And it gets worse every single release.

      The latest release has a dead zone (!) in the list view. You’ll click a row/item and nothing happens. It only occurs after using the app for a bit and only in certain vertical place (about 20% down from the top). You have to scroll the list to be to click that item. Hilarious.

      Of course all of this is on top the numerous other bugs.

      Chrstian - ONE FUCKING GUY - made a superior app by himself. What did PewDiePie say, “it’s evolving, only backwards.”

      • Krudler@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        2 days ago

        I think it took them 4 years to get their video player working too. A video player.

        Their video player still doesn’t work

        • DrunkenDuckling@lemmus.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 days ago

          Their video player working would be news to me in 2026. I still have to download most videos in order to watch them.

          • Krudler@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 days ago

            I guess it worked for a couple days 🤷 thanks for the update, I have edited my comment

          • merc@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 days ago

            Ugh, on the theme of media, their image-hosting is so incredibly user-hostile.

            I used image search to find something the other day, and the one I wanted was hosted on Reddit. But, it was impossible to see the whole image because Reddit insisted that the only way to see the image was with the whole forum around it, and the image resized to fit that view, with the top and bottom of the image cropped out. There was no way to actually see the full image with the top and bottom visible on Reddit. I had to actually download the image to see that part.

  • merc@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    2 days ago

    It’s still surprising to me that 2 years later, it’s still double the value it was when it went public.

    There was never any believable story where they would go public and become profitable.