• SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net
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        I was more talking about how the American justice system is legal slavery. By being the primary cause of incarcerating people, Haris is a slaver.

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          No she isn’t a slaver, that argument never works when used against one of us. And it’s not an argument any decent liberal or progressive would use.

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          By being the primary cause of incarcerating people

          primary cause of incarcerating people is people committing crime.

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            ffs. The USA has a long standing history of creating bs laws to incarcerate people. Do you seriously believe it is reasonable for someone to get 20 years in prison for a few flecks of weed. That also doesn’t cover the police’s long standing tradition of making up shit. Also also legality =/= morality

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              Do you seriously believe it is reasonable for someone to get 20 years in prison for a few flecks of weed

              i don’t.

              where is this happening? and was harris prosecuting in place where this is happening? and why did you chose her as the “primary reason”? why not the arresting officers or judge? and why not the stupid decision to carry a weed when it is punishable by 20 years in prison?

              That also doesn’t cover the police’s long standing tradition of making up shit.

              and how is that the prosecutor’s fault?

              Also also legality =/= morality

              yeah… and?

              you are just cherry-picking random unconnected trivia that doesn’t even support your conclusion.

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                Wow, just look at all these unconnected facts that are said to contribute to systemic racism. Yup, totally unconnected.

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        The NYT article linked in that Reuters article is missing.

        From what i can tell the Top Cop story is pretty accurate.

        The Atlantic argued in an op-ed that she doesn’t say enough when pressed about criticisms about her track record, “like that she fought hard to keep innocents in prison and failed to fight hard against corrupt cops.”

        Biden was also known as the “tough on crime guy” being a co-writer of one of the largest incarceration laws so they fit together perfectly. Two Republicans cosplaying as Democrats.

        The slave owner family criticism is indeed far less relevant as a link to 1800’s has like 32/64 people in the parents tree and chances are one of those will be a slave owner but 200 years later that’s not super relevant to the children.

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      You should delete this comment. I don’t tolerate anyone referring to a black person as a slaver.

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    Good god! NO! Have they learned nothing from 2016???

    There’s a woman running for president, that seems to be the democrats only option (only because nobody is giving Bernie Sanders the time of day…for some reason…), and an entire nation, both on the left AND on the right, who are saying “Ew, no, we don’t want her…”. Opposing her is trump, which one side of the election actively DO want to be president. So they’ll have no troube with their voting decision.

    And then there’s the undecided voter. They don’t like either option, but they see that even the left isn’t happy with their choice, but the right IS happy with their choice…so from that logic, it sounds like they should vote republican, because they don’t like either option, but at least SOME people DO like this option. And that’s how trump becomes president.

    The only question is, did I just describe 2016, or 2024?

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      It’s such a low bar for the DNC to just put forth a viable candidate, and all they’ve come up with is a controversial president’s wife who doesnt know when to shut up and not tank her own (and others) campaign, a genocidal geriatric strike-breaker, and now, after nearly two decades of blatant, recorded police abuse and widespread protests against police… President “female bad-cop”.

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    I find it interesting how many self identified leftists are cheering and welcoming a racist and corrupt cop as president of the United States.

    Like, this isn’t even about the whole “anyone but trump” or “vote 3rd party” war.

    The crowd claiming to be the left are just straight up cheering for cops.

    Fascinating how I see the left continually blamed for not meeting Dems in the middle with that 1930s Germany copypasta and yet it’s only one of them constantly shifting right.

    Since apparently a rabid mob comes up every time someone touches this topic, yes I understand what’s at stake and will be voting accordingly.

    I’m sure all these self proclaimed leftists will be there to advocate for the local socialist parties after we secure the presidency right? …right?

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      You realize you are part of the rabid mob too then? Instead of listening to people with which you mostly politically agree, you immediately resort to shitting on and scapegoating them by jumping to a wild conclusion. This type of rhetoric is equally unhelpful.

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        And that’s a fair assessment as well. It is a scapegoat to say those folks don’t support other leftist policies.

        However I must disagree that my conclusion was wild.

        My train of thought is, people say they support making peoples lives better and implementing policies proven to work and be more cost effective.

        When it comes time to ‘nut up’ and do it, their chosen representatives roll over and compromise and refuse to use the same governing tools used against them to stop the rise of fascism.

        Republicans famously grind the country to a halt with a minority. It’s their whole shtick, and yet they sail through these fascist policies nationwide with no fighting back from the Feds.

        Is it truly that like minded when the purpose of a system is what it does, and my fellow patriots choose the continued decline of society driven by capitalism?

        This, I believe, is the source of this leftist’s anger. Open denial of genocide by party leaders, while capital interests make life shittier literally every day, and no way out between “shit choice” and “literal fascist”.

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          My stake is that democrats aren’t Nazis. They just dont mind them very much. In fact your political opponents being actual nazis improves your election chances.

          There is no left wing in American politics.

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            No they are just complicit in the most obvious Genocide since 1940 while denying it is a Genocide.

            Nothing Nazi to see here. The Nazis were bad because they called themselves socialists. Not the Genocide thing right?

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        She had a history of horrible policies.

        The idea that voters vote based on policy rather than loyalty is totally incomprehensible to the Democratic party.

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          They keep saying that Democrats fall in love while Republicans fall in line, but clearly haven’t internalized it.

          Because Republicans clearly love Trump, and Democrats keep ordering their base to fall in line.

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          Calling out Red MAGA is fine but don’t you dare call out Blue MAGA.

          Saying that Democrats will vote for literal Genocide if it means Republicans don’t win really hurts their feelings. And like the Republicans they will explain that if the other guy wins it would be worse.

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            Yes these are the same people that tell you that Biden hasn’t gotten anything impactful done because the president really doesn’t have that much power while following that up with claims that Trump would completely end democracy the minute he gets elected. This is a variation of an argument first coined by fascists who claim that their enemy is both weak and all powerful.

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        I have some reservations (need to research her more) as she was relatively progressive in an American context it seems.

        If anyone has more starting points for my research, I am absolutely open.

        However, for the moment she’s a “NO” from me. Even at the most forgiving judgements, it seems she sent away a whole bunch of poor people and did nothing about the system that is driving them to crime.

        Ah also her weird racism, nepotism, and stances on LGBT issues. Who refers to art in their home by the ethnicity of the artist???

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          Another one for you. As a Californian, we knew she was bad. That’s why she dropped out polling 5th in the primary.

          The Human Costs Of Kamala Harris’ War On Truancy. The “progressive prosecutor” wanted to transform how California responded to students missing school. Parents like Cheree Peoples wound up paying the price.

          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-truancy-arrests-2020-progressive-prosecutor_n_5c995789e4b0f7bfa1b57d2e

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            Good info on her background, thank you! As a former Orange resident this is especially disappointing to read this story and how the mother and child were treated.

            Harris has since replaced her punitive stance with the message that parents of truant children need help, not scare tactics. It’s a shift that happened roughly in step with voters’ waning tolerance for using the criminal justice system to address complicated social problems and Harris’ own preparations to seek higher office.

            Emphasis mine

            She’s a cop, down to her core. She’s got the mentality that “I can fix social problems through the threat and use of coercive state violence”. That was her law, that she asked for, I assumed drafted/guided, and defended publicly… until she ran for the Oval Office, and was made to choose compassion.

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          Racism really? You mean being positive about being black? I only ever see bigots referring to black folk as racist.

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              No, any human being is capable of bias. Racism requires institutional power.

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                Agreed any human is capable of bias. Bias based on perceived differences. Some people make biased assumptions based on their perceiving of race.

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          I do not honestly think she would make the police state worse as the lead Democrat nominee. She has been and would continue to be pushed to be more progressive to keep her job.

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            Whose pushing the top dems to be more progressive? If anything it’s thenexact opposite. We essentially have two right wing parties now.

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              Ok…a right wing party that is pushing transgender rights, supports abortion rights, has the most progressive platform in U.S. history…I’ll take it.

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        Without complaint? Really? The only thing she has going for her over Biden is he age

        I’d vote for her the same way I’d vote for Biden - begrudgingly

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          Honestly I think that’s a great example of just how low my bar is at this point, younger than ancient and not trump is enough to get me excited.

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      How do I get him to rate my booty? Is there a scheduling website I sign up through…?