• wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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    War is basically all logistics and the value Ukraine is getting out of their drone program is insane

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      Honestly when they’re done, that manufacturing capacity will do great things for their economy.

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          The second it is safe, the second the war is over, I’m coming over and spending tourism dollars over there.

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            They’ll need it because the war money will stop immediately. They’re being funded only as much as it hurts Russia. Just like Afghanistan in the 80s.

        • JigglySackles@lemmy.world
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          Slava Ukraine. Be safe if you can. Wish I could do more to help. I tried to do some things with the digital forces but there isn’t much left I can do that you all need.

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        It’s what many says, Europe needs Ukraine for many reasons and a big one is (sadly), their knowledge about a mordern war.

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          “We need people from this big war to fight the next big war!” is the line of thinking that’s going to burn everything to the ground, just like it did a century ago.

          Between Ukraine/Russia, Israel/Iran, Britain floating warships off the coast of China, Indian and Pakistan firing on one another, North Africa in a decade long bloodbath, the US sending marines to suppress unrest in local cities… its not good folks.

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          Very much so, though they import lots of parts. Generally speaking the Ukrainian defence industry is operating under capacity because cashflow.

          Ukraine builds rockets and the biggest airplanes in the world and has a vibrant IT sector, they can manage drones. Much of the Soviet high-tech design and manufacturing was Ukrainian, that’s one of the reasons why Russia wants its colony back.

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          Given the volume they quote each year they either have sourcing figured out or produce at least some of the parts internally. Keep in mind, in FPV drones a lot of the tech is not some cutting edge stuff.

          Some of the strikes at the residential complexes can be targeted attacks at distributed micro factories.

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      Ukraine playing it smart and understanding how modern warfare is done. Russia only throwing in more and more soldiers.

      • wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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        In Russia’s defence, who could have possibly have thought that invading Ukraine in the winter wasn’t going to be a simple 3 day weekend kind of thing?

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            That feels like a big contingency that they failed to adequately plan for

            Plus wouldn’t the armed forces still fight?

            • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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              They would have fought, but they would have been demoralized.

              They also would have likely been replaced by a Russian sympathizer or asset and the US/West would be very wary to send all sorts of expensive weapon systems to Ukraine.

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          Losing a generation in war that could have added much value to their economy can’t really be smart or worth it, can it?

      • real_squids@sopuli.xyz
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        It works though, that’s why they keep doing it. It’s slow as hell and inhumane, but they can afford it for many more years I’d wager. Their capabilities of data gathering/transmission are much better these days as well. Also don’t forget they set up wired drone production (in serious numbers at least) first, they can be smart at times.

        Underestimating them irl is pointless.

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      A man fighting for his home is worth 100 fighting for someone else’s cause. Russia was never going to win the numbers game.