Erythritol, a widely used sugar substitute found in many low-carb and sugar-free products, may not be as harmless as once believed. New research from the University of Colorado Boulder reveals that even small amounts of erythritol can harm brain blood vessel cells, promoting constriction, clotting, and inflammation—all of which may raise the risk of stroke.

  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    12 小时前

    This seems interesting because they did some research in the actual mechanism that could create a cause-effect relation. Still need to be repeated to justify legal changes but that’s a good start.

    Much better than these “correlation” studies that say nothing. Like the ones saying “people who doesn’t drink any alcohol die sooner that people who drink a cup of wine each day”, that’s totally faulty for a lot of evident reasons. And until now most artificial sweeteners studies were like that “people who use artificial sweeteners tend to have more health issues”, like with the drink is reasonable to assume and consider that people who do such dietary changes is more likely to already have an underlying health issue that they are trying to cope with and it’s obviously more in risk that healthy people that doesn’t feel the need to control their diet.

    As I said this study seems a little more promising as they did research on the actual mechanisms on which the health issues may happen. I hope it gets repeated enough times and, if needed, the product would be banned or properly labeled.

  • 2910000@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 小时前

    As long as they don’t find a problem with maltitol. I just discovered “low-sugar” ice creams made using the stuff and they’re amazing

    It’s not zero sugar like erythritol, and it’s not as sweet, but I like it

  • Tuxman@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    20 小时前

    Meh…. It’s a research from the US. Let’s wait till more reputable sources confirm the studies.

  • yarr@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    59
    ·
    2 天前

    Add the fucking shit to the headline: Spoiler: it’s Erythritol

  • Bubbey@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    34
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    2 天前

    I always told my buddy who was dieting in college that getting fake sugar sodas isn’t the solution, it’s to stop drinking soda…

    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      2 天前

      Not even that, find something healthy that scratches the itch. Your body indicates it wants energy (unless your addicted in which case its the microbiome or something), get it some berries or throw them in some water with lemon juice

      • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        20 小时前

        I’ve found that a lot of times when I’m craving something sweet, what I actually want is water. It seems my brain associates sweetness (such as from fruit) with hydration. When I can, I’ll have some fruit. But when fruit’s unavailable, I know I just have to drink more water.

  • venusaur@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    105
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 天前

    Why not just say, “Popular sugar substitute, erythritol…” in the title?

  • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    140
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    2 天前

    The authors caution that their study was a laboratory study, conducted on cells, and larger studies in people are needed.

    Ok, nice to know, moving on.

      • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        17
        ·
        2 天前

        I took a look at the two most famous colas and two fake colas, and the only sweeteners I was able to find were aspartame, acesulfame K, and sucralose. No sign of erythritol. I wonder if I’ve ever even seen a beverage with that stuff in it. However, I have seen bags of it sold in supermarkets, so apparently it isn’t restricted in that sense.

        • kadu@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          17 小时前

          No sign of erythritol.

          It’s significantly more common in baked goods (because it’s stable under oven temperatures) and extremely more common in “fitness” branded alternatives like low calorie yogurt, low calorie peanut butter, and so on.

        • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 天前

          aspartame

          ethrthiol isnt that common, its more associated with stevia substitute, it has well known side effects of causing GI problems in sensitive people.(might be useful for constipate dpeople.)

          • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            20 小时前

            I’m beginning to think this must be one of those EU things. I couldn’t find a single yogurt like that in my local supermarket.

            • limer@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              16 小时前

              Reading more of the comments here, from Spain and Denmark, it seems it is in other food items in the EU; perhaps there are better regulations with yogurt?

        • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 天前

          I don’t consume many sugar-free products, except Coke Zero Sugar. Not Coke Zero, but Coke Zero SUGAR. They are two separate products (which taste significantly different), and even servers in restaurants often don’t know the difference. They’ve got to be phasing out the Zero in favor of the Zero SUGAR, became ZS tastes far better.

          Anyhoo, I’ve been wondering about the artificial sweetener they must be using for them, and now I’m wondering if it’s this stuff. Your post seems to indicate that I’m in the clear.

          • M137@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            2 天前

            Just read the label or look it up… What the fuck is this “I’m just gonna decide on it being this way without even lifting a finger even though all the info is readily available”? If it is that sweetener you’re great proof that it does indeed damage brain cells and if not…then you’re just this dumb naturally.

            • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              2 天前

              Not dumb, just don’t care. One advantage to getting old is that the dangerous stuff that takes years to kill you won’t have the time to get you before you die anyway, so you can go wild. If it tastes better, I’ll drink it. It’ll kill me in 30 years? Yeah, but I’ll be dead in 20, and it tastes good, so I don’t care.

              • limer@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                15 小时前

                I have seen a few people who are similar to that become old; struggling for decades with damage done to their bodies when younger.

                I am not judging others , just remarking the survival rate is high

        • M137@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          2 天前

          Ah, yes, it must not be common just because you randomly looked at two products. This is like saying “I just looked up two of the most famous people ever and both are white so therefore it means that non-white famous people don’t exist”.

          • Azteh@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            2 天前

            Taken from top result on google, so obviously not the best source, with that said

            Seeing “sugar alcohols” in the ingredient list may be the only clue that erythritol is present in the food.

            So you can’t necessarily even find it without some serious digging, so it doesn’t matter if they picked 2 or 100 examples, if they don’t clearly state it anyway.

  • rumba@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    2 天前

    God damn it, I’ve been using this a lot. It’s almost flavorless except sweet and doesn’t take much to sweeten a large amount of water. I’ve been using the Truvia packets one in a large bottle of water with 1/8 of a teaspoon of crystalized lime or orange ( from a brewer supply co). All the other ones seem to have a chemical aftertaste to me.

    Oh well, the second best time to stop is now I suppose.

    • TechAnon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 天前

      You probably weren’t taking in enough to do any real damage, but even so - good idea to stop now.

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 天前

        I’m eyeing my waterbottle full of it right now

        gonna have to dump it out, super sad, I’m almost out of crystalized lime :(

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    2 天前

    What even uses this stuff? I only see Acesulfam-k, Sucralose, Stevia.

    Edit: i’m european.

    • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      edit-2
      2 天前

      Brand names in the US are Swerve and Truvía. I don’t think it gets added to much in junk food factories, but it is available in packets for tea and such.

    • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 天前

      Lot of things. Here in Spain I have a big box of sweetener little packages that have “STEVIA” la el big but it’s 96% eritriol and only 3% stevia.

    • ByteOnBikes@discuss.online
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 天前

      If you can, avoid any fake sugar. I love science, but science sugar tricking your brain that something is sweet feels wrong.

      Or not. I’m not a nutritionist I don’t know anything about anything.

      • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 天前

        Thats because it is wrong, youve hit the nail on the head. Anything that is sweet activates certain receptors on your tongue, and that stimulates the production of insulin. That insulin is then going to travel your body looking for sugars to break down. Thing is, insulin only breaks down sugars, not artificial sweeteners. So its going to break down sugars elsewhere in your body or leave free insulin in your blood. That fucks you up good and leads to diabetes.

        ALL ARTIFICAL SWEETENERS ARE BAD, unless you already have diabetes.

      • Default Username@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        2 天前

        Actually you could be a nutritionist if you call yourself one since it’s not a legally protected term. Dietitian is the actual one that is a protected term.

      • etherphon@piefed.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 天前

        Oh I definitely do the best I can, but it’s difficult to avoid sometimes, for instance finding a protein bar without any of that stuff and with good other macros is quite a chore. But I opt for real sugar whenever I possibly can.

    • chunes@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      2 天前

      Erythritol makes my entire mouth feel like it’s on fire as soon as it touches my tongue. My body did me a favor on this one.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 天前

        you seem sensitive, ive taken stevia subistitute with erythiol, it never caused it. some people have gi problems with it, but it doesnt really bother me for tha tone. there are products with pure stevia in it(but warning pure is not as sweet as the substitutes though, so you might have to use more.

  • scytale@piefed.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    2 天前

    Well shit I use it daily for my coffee and home-made milk tea. Reading all this stuff coming to light about sugar substitutes is gonna make me just go back to regular sugar or maybe coconut sugar, and I’ll just control my intake.

    • Redditsux@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 天前

      You can use Stevia. It’s a natural product, zero calories. There is a more expensive option in monk fruit as well. I live on Stevia. It’s easily available in groceries and stores, and reasonably priced too.

      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 天前

        stevia is not a natural product. there is indeed a plant named stevia and it can be used as a sweetener. Stevia that you buy at the store is chemically produced and is derived through a complex process that uses petroleum based chemistry to extract the chemicals from the plant.

        raw sugar has far less environmental impact than buying stevia. if you truly want a sugar alternative grow your own sugar beets. it’s literally raw sugar(sucrose).

        • Revan343@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          12 小时前

          if you truly want a sugar alternative grow your own sugar beets. it’s literally raw sugar(sucrose).

          So it’s literally not a sugar alternative

      • scytale@piefed.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 天前

        I do use Stevia. The thing is, all the stevia products I see at the grocery store are laced with erythritol. Does the product you consume exclusively use stevia only?

        • Redditsux@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 天前

          I buy stand alone stevia product, and never buy drinks or baked goods in the store. I make them myself at home. I have not been able to find stevia-made drinks or foods like ice cream here so I just don’t consume them. It’s summer, and I’d love to have some ice cream once in a while but I don’t.

          • scytale@piefed.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            edit-2
            2 天前

            Sorry, I meant I buy stand-alone stevia but all the options like Truvia and the store brand variant have erythritol in their ingredients. Which brand do you use?

            • Redditsux@lemmy.worldOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 天前

              I use generic 100% stevia. It is a shame branded ones contain erythritol. You should be able to get them on amazon if you can’t find it in a store.

    • Wahots@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 天前

      Honestly, I’ve had better luck just getting higher quality tea and cutting sugar from morning beverages entirely. (I don’t drink coffee, but low quality teas tend to become bitter, which required sugar. Higher quality teas never become bitter)

      These days, I’m cutting sugar across the board. Shredded wheat with frozen raspberries tastes better than honey bunches of oats anyways. And the sugar I’m eating is pretty much just for fun, like pie or ice cream. No reason to accidentally ingest 28g of sugar in a breakfast bar that doesn’t even taste that good.

      • daed@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 天前

        Never got why coffee needs sugar. Its supposed to be bitter. If its too bitter then you may add milk. But sugar? That doesn’t belong in coffee.

  • spicy pancake@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    2 天前

    erythritol was always a not so favored ingredient for me due to the weird cooling mouthfeel and GI effects

    now if it turns out that allulose is bad for you, I’m going to be SO UPSET.