Starting on February 1st, 2026, all of the above mentioned Countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, and Finland), will be charged a 10% Tariff on any and all goods sent to the United States of America. On June 1st, 2026, the Tariff will be increased to 25%. This Tariff will be due and payable until such time as a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland.
That would be a good opportunity to throw the EU-US trade deal negotiated last year into the dustbin, since Trump has already violated it with the tariffs and no one in the EU was happy with it anyway. They only accepted it at the time because they were afraid of the U.S. ceasing to support Ukraine otherwise. Well, the U.S. doesn’t support Ukraine anymore anyway.
We should all sell our US bonds, 10% of them, and then repeat for any further tarrifs.
It’s time for the EU to drop the anti-circumvention laws pushed onto them (and other countries) through trade deals long ago. It’ll enable a true right to repair, as well as resilience against foreign influence by being able to inspect and replace firmware and software.
While they’re at it, maybe reduce copyright after death too.
Cory Doctorow is right!
These are the ramblings of a lunatic.
Why is it that the US must have Greenland if China and Russia are eyeing it? It’s in NATO care right now. If the US would have it, it would be in NATO care. If China and/or Russia came for it, surely the NATO countries (including Greenland, Denmark, or any of the other countries currently positioned there) wouldn’t stop the US from helping out to defend it. What’s the real point in transferring ownership? It’s just a load of shit you can smell from far away.
A threat to world peace lol. A threat to the survival of our planet lol.
Sure Trumpey boy. Keep talking out of the holes in your frontotemporal dementia.
Honestly the US should be kicked out of NATO, and banned from rejoining unless they agree to pay the bloc every time they threaten to invade their allies or something.
That would indeed seem appropriate.
Surely it would/should be against the rules of NATO for a member to attack one of the other members. I feel like that’s the entire fucking point of the organization.
Of those states, all but the UK and Norway are EU member states and Norway is a member of the EEA, so its practically impossible to single them out with tariffs. Trump should really understand this by now, as it isn’t the first time he tries to single out EU/EEA members with his tariffs.
You think that man is capable of proper economic understanding? His brain in soup, cocaine, and memories of when he could get his dick hard enough to molest children.
We have subsidized Denmark, and all of the Countries of the European Union, and others, for many years by not charging them Tariffs, or any other forms of remuneration. Now, after Centuries, it is time for Denmark to give back — World Peace is at stake! China and Russia want Greenland, and there is not a thing that Denmark can do about it. They currently have two dogsleds as protection, one added recently.
This is just a small start of his ramblings and man, he’s taking some good drugs there because how hard do you have to be tripping balls to even remotely believe any of that shit.
Literally every word is a lie there and it just gets worse
I’m reasonably confident that neither Russia nor China have any interest in Greenland. Primarily because they clearly don’t. They could have attacked Greenland at any point in the last 60 years they haven’t.
China is primarily interested in the Middle East, India, and Africa and Russia is not currently in a state to be threatening anyone else, least of all NATO.
Not sure we care anymore, since the free trade agreement between EU and Mercosur was signed today. We don’t really need to trade with the US anymore. South America provides a huge export market for our products, and they supply better quality agricultural imports than the US can anyway.
It’s not about buyin, but about selling
Man, I hope we use this opportunity to build new bridges to other countries!
[Denmark] currently have two dogsleds as protection, one added recently.
What the fuck is this guy smoking??
If he was so concerned about safety and Russian or Chinese attacks, he could just… you know… reinforce the Greenlandic NATO bases. They’re literally allies. I’m so sick of this clown show.
Trump has admitted that ego plays a key role as well. He told the New York Times last week that owning Greenland was “what I feel is psychologically needed for success”
He isn’t even hiding this.
They should be scared. Sled dogs are working dogs, not pets. They are not to be messed with. They will defend themselves, the sled, the cargo and the driver.
I think it is a great mistake for anyone in the comments to start being China apologists just because Trump is acting like a retard.
I think you’re all severely underestimating the shit China does. Trumps America isn’t anywhere close to being as fucked up as China is, and I say this as a Dane who is currently dealing with the severe hatred and feelings of betrayal towards our former allies.
Let’s not start simping for China because America sucks. Let’s not do that. I only have a surface level understanding of what goes on in China, and that is still enough for me to say with confidence that current day America is still less of a hell hole by comparison.
I wpuld rather focus the energy in Europe to make us stronger over time so that we can be our own super power and not have to lean on the other trash bin super powers out there.
It won’t happen over night and might not even happen in my lifetime, but if we can work toward that goal, I would be happy. We have survived worse.
What exactly makes China worse than the US?
If you have to ask, then it is time to read up on some basic history. Key words to use:
Mao
Tiananem square
Xinjiang internment camps
The one child policy, it’s immediate consequences and current day consequences.
Human trafficking, sex trafficking, abductions and illegal adoptions
Women’s rights in China
Gay rights in China. Specifically the banning and censorship of apps like grinder and erasure of “effeminate men” in media
China during Covid
China human rights violations
China freedom of speech
Maybe some of these will give you a head start.
Tiananmen Square was not simply a violent escalation of the Chinese state, so not sure if I’d wanna count that, and the “Xianjang Internment camps” still seem like made up bullshit by Adrian Zenz and the likes. But I didn’t simply ask what makes China bad, because I’m well aware of that, I asked what makes it worse than the US. Key words here:
Literally every president the US ever had in the past decades
War for almost the entire existence of the country
ICE and their camps
Pretty much daily school shootings and overall gun culture for that matter
Women’s rights in the US
Police violence
Horrible healthcare system causing thousands of deaths every year
Increasingly limited LGBTQ rights
War on Drugs
War on Terror
Support of or direct involvement in multiple genocides
Massive surveillance network, not just in the US, but globally
Hundreds of military bases all across the world
Guantanamo Bay
Human rights violations
Preventing people in certain countries from accessing certain much needed medications and extortion of pharmaceutical companies in other countries
Meddling in other countries’ political environment and even killing or kidnapping democratically elected heads of states
Creation and funding of terrorist groups and states
Bombing mostly innocent countries to ashes and committing countless war crimes, including the use of nuclear and chemical weapons
I’m probably still missing things…
China overall has bad track record when it comes to everything related to all kinds of individual freedoms, but considering that the US is actually deliberately killing and torturing people to no end (at least on a much, much larger scale than China), I’d say that they are way worse than China. And again, this is no excuse for China, I just think they don’t match the cruelty of the American empire.
You are truly lost if you think America is anywhere close to the cruelty of China. Truly. You have had Dictator wannabe Trump in office for one year and you think this is in any way comparable to the decades of oppression that the Chinese have been subjected to?
Trump is terrible, no doubt, and I would be the first one to criticize the American welfare system, or lack thereof, but Americans have not experienced an ounce of what the Chinese people have. You can only say this if you are bad faith or entirely ignorant of the reality of the world.
You might even be a Russian troll at this point. Absolutely divorced from reality.
Most of the points you made were about lack of individual freedoms, which I agree is bad, but doesn’t come close to actually killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people during the past decades like the US did. And why do you keep bringing up Trump? I didn’t mention him even once in my comments. I don’t care about him, he is a symptom of a much larger issue, not the cause. I’m not just talking about the oppression and killings of people within US borders, but also outside of them, and that’s where China doesn’t even compare to the US.
If “Trump” and “welfare system” are the only relevant points you got from everything I listed, I’m not sure that I’m the one acting in bad faith. It seems like you purposefully don’t even consider all the atrocities of the US outside of their own borders, but why should you, after all they’re just some stupid foreigners, right?
Everyone who is even slightly critical of the Western world is a Russian troll, I know. I don’t think I’m the one who is acting in bad faith and divorced from reality.
[Addendum]: Something I think you didn’t mention yet is the amount of people executed by the Chinese state, even for the simplest “crimes” like possession of drugs. That’s about the worst I can think of about China, and it’s one aspect that I would actually call a real atrocity that is worse than in the US. But the death penalty shouldn’t exist at all, so the US doesn’t gain any sympathy points from me in this case either.
China is in no way an appropriate strategic, economic or military partner. Its is on the other side of the planet, it has only its own best interests in mind to make itself into a regional superpower that does EXACTLY what Trump and Putin does. Its economic system is the polar opposite of Europe, open and free market vs protectionist and state-controlled market). Militarily it is growing fast but is still highly regional with limited power projection (i.e. cannot help us).
Wanting to partner with China against US makes no sense, they are the primary financier of Russia with the deliberate intent on weakening Europe and distract us from competing with them globally. Not to mention that America isn’t our enemy, but Trump and his regime specifically, the vast (75%) majority of US is against the Greenland grab.
I agree with everything you say, but I still have to treat America as my enemy as long as they are run by lunatics. Nothing against normal everyday Americans, but it doesn’t help me any to know that they don’t want this to happen if it in fact ends up happening anyway. I’d like for all of this to be a bluff and trump is just being a retard as always, trying to force us to give him mining rights to Greenland…. Which he already kinda had but whatever. Problem is, you just can’t trust anything this monster does and when he has all the power of the US nation, I just can’t sit here and be like murica isn’t my enemy, it’s just trump. Well, trump is using murica to potentially start a war with my country so…
But America is still not as bad as China. People are terrifyingly ignorant about China in this comment section. Are they all Hasanabi fans, or what? 😆
I only have a surface level understanding of what goes on in China
And that is the problem.
Anyone who claims that China is better than the US even in the current Trump-version has even less of an understanding of China. My point was that it is scary to me, as someone who hasn’t studied Chinese history and politics in-depth, to see people who clearly know nothing about China, call it better than the US. At least I can admit my lack of knowledge.
But let me ask you this: do you think that a country that is heavily censoring its people, to the point that a Taiwanese video game was erased off the market, because it made a joke about Xi Jinping, a country that has systematically suppressed and erased entire ethnic groups’ cultures and history and throwing some of them in concentration camps where they still are to this day, struggling with a horrific human trafficking epidemic both in terms of sexual slaves but also children being kidnapped and sold in illegal adoptions, subjected their populations to inhumane and unspeakable treatment during Covid, lies about the death toll of Chinese citizens during Covid, has insane poverty and oppression of its people to this day and has yet to acknowledge what happened on tiananmen square - which, need I remind you - was a horrific slaughter of innocent youths - do you think such a country is less evil and dangerous than current day America? I am not saying American is in a great place right now, and I do not think for a second that Trump is doing the country any long term favours, but China has one of the most bloody and disturbing histiories of any current super power and the shadows have carried over from that time into current day where maybe some things have gotten a bit better relative to the horror years of peaches like Mao, but the effects of these past regimes and the social indoctrination and oppression is nothing any American or any westerner, really, can fully understand nor appreciate. I have read a few books and briefly talked to classmates of Chinese descent. One of them wrote a book about how her mom escaped China and fled to Europe. She’s not that old. It wasn’t a nice holiday, let me tell you.
But please continue with your smug insinuations and tell me how fucking educated you are about this subject. I would love to hear you convince me how America is worse than China. I heard some ding dong in this thread say that China was better because at least they only terrorize their own population and not the world. It is hard to somment on something so stupid.
a country that has systematically suppressed and erased entire ethnic groups’ cultures and history and throwing some of them in concentration camps where they still are to this day, struggling with a horrific human trafficking epidemic both in terms of sexual slaves but also children being kidnapped and sold in illegal adoptions, subjected their populations to inhumane and unspeakable treatment during Covid, lies about the death toll of Chinese citizens during Covid, has insane poverty and oppression of its people to this day
this applies 1/1 to the US
Not to the same extent as in China. You can only claim that if you know absolutely nothing about China at all.
Americans have way more rights and freedoms than the Chinese do. Anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant or in bad faith.
Why would they give a shit that Trump is going to raise taxes on Americans again?
It will really hurt some industries. For example film & TV production will be badly hit.
What exactly does Europe sell to USA that they NEED to sell for the film & tv production to happen?
Apparently a lot of hard to replace stuff. Just after the recent trade agreement, which favours the US, a study came out that the US would do much worse if tariffs hampered trade the EU.
The production is the sale.
I don’t get it, it’s not like companies will stop buying rights for good movies/tv shows because there’s tariffs on them, and they’re not buying bad content anyways. Movie tickets and streaming subscriptions will just become more expensive for US customers to compensate and that’s that, the same thing that happened to every other thing tariffs were applied to.
Talking about production, not distribution or exhibition. US studios will have little incentive to produce in Britain if that film then becomes subject to tariffs.
The production? There are very few European companies making films in the US, and this would encourage them to film in Europe, so still not sure how that is bad for Europe.
US companies making films in EU are not importing anything, so tariffs don’t apply to them, and since it’s a US company they even hold the rights for the produced work so it doesn’t apply to that either.
What am I missing?
You have it the wrong way around. US companies producing in Europe are importing the film to the US.
EU companies producing in the US are importing to EU.
More incentive to local film industry?
American movies are all about CGI and explosions, mostly, nowadays. I’ll take a low budged film with a good story and acting any day.
Local films are smaller, so don’t spend as much. More importantly, every hotel room, meal, plank of wood, hour of CG artist time, equipment rental, stage rental, truck, and unit of electricity is an export when foreign entities are paying the bills. Its great for the health of the economy.
There’s no way to replace the billions that would be lost, and hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost.
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I believe that partly explains how the US is mutating into a tyranny of roving street gangs. They all see themselves in those violent scenarios.
I don’t know how true this is, but I heard from a military guy that when NATO do blue and red teams, the US gets it’s arse kicked every time by the European teams.
Apparently it’s because the US military are always encouraged to follow orders and not think for themselves. Basically the exact opposite to the way that they are betrayed in Hollywood. They even get trained to creeply talk about themselves in the third person.
Portrayed, my good friend, not betrayed.
And please do explain more about the part they are trained to speak on the third person.
Why? How?
I imagine they do when training in Norway at least, but the whole point of those exercises is to make them better at dealing with winter warfare. The Norwegians already know how to dress for the cold, so it’s not exactly an even pairing. Not sure the results would be the same if they did the same exercise in Texas heat.
Pedobear Donnie can’t even maintain a chain of thought to the end, but he wants to a king at 80. Just die the hell faster already and spare us the drama and the rambles of a psycho pedophile.
And this is why you can’t boot-lick people like Trump to be on their good side. Negotiations mean nothing to him; if somebody feeds him the idea that he needs to betray you, he will. You can’t make a deal with the devil, especially one that has dimentia.
The Devil is honest enough to tell you in advance the price of any deal with them: eternal damnation.
