Nobody’s gonna buy it, but Motorola gets to say they tried and there just wasn’t a market for GrapheneOS.
Completely wrong target for GrapheneOS. The GrapheneOS demographics, which I belong to, isn’t interested in high-end phones. They want a no nonsense simple phone with lots of storage and security first design.
- fancy AMOLED screen: don’t care
- 5 fancy cameras: don’t care
- super powerful CPU and GPU: don’t care
- storage space: yes please, I have photos and music to store locally!
This will be harmful to GrapheneOS project. It will go like this: no one buys the phone because it’s too damn expensive and full of features the privacy nerds like me don’t care about. Even fewer buy the phone with GrapheneOS pre-installed and it’s a total flop. Motorola stops the partnership saying “we did it and no one wanted it”. No other OEM wants to partner with GrapheneOS after that.
1900 euros for 512 gb with no sd card slot. 24-bit/192kHz audio support, but no headphone jack. Why even bother?
I really hope the next generation of Moto G gets graphene support. Somehow their low end phones end up with more useful features than the flagships.
So it’s going to fail and they’re going to blame Graphene
Looks like it
At least the rumors that it’d be a foldable seem to be wrong.
It’s also initially launching with android 17. The article said that Graphene won’t be ready for it until some time next year. I wonder if the devs are deliberately putting some separation between the hardware launch and OS availability so that they can avoid getting caught up in Motorola’s corporate panic attack when this thing doesn’t sell.
At least the rumors that it’d be a foldable seem to be wrong.
Only priced like one, unfortunately
The foldable is the next one to get support after signature 27.
It doesn’t release with graphene os so that would be stupid, it ships their android.
Not offering a pre-installed GrapheneOS version feels like a misstep. Plenty of people are aware of the brand for security and privacy, and would pay extra to have it pre-installed.
Maybe we will see some re-sellers pop up, but I would prefer direct-from-manufacturer.
Not to mention, they could get the keys right from day one and eliminate (Google’s) “alternate OS is booting” boogieman screen.
Plenty of people are aware of the brand for security and privacy, and would pay extra to have it pre-installed.
This is pure cope, there is no way “plenty of people” are lining up to pay this amount of money for a Motorola phone with a niche operating system.
Just because something isn’t mainstream doesn’t mean it would not make plenty of money.
As was pointed out above, Motorola probably underestimates the casual folks who would pay extra to have GrapheneOS pre-installed, because the GrapheneOS developers are so rabidly against trusting anyone else to do the install.
But many GrapheneOS users just like having a qucik toggle for the microphone and camera.
(Side question: Why the fuck hasn’t such a basic privacy feature made it into basic Android, anyway? Or has it, and I missed it?)
And yes, there’s always a buyer for a phone this expensive. For some people, it will be their only computer for five to ten years, anyway.
They aren’t shipped with GrapheneOS because the developers of GrapheneOS explicitly don’t want this. They dont want any possibility of some backdoor caused by the manufacturer to bring down their reputation.
It not being shipped with GrapheneOS is on purpose.
Yes. I’m waiting for a chill fork of GrapheneOS. I love what the developers have accomplished. LineageOS seems close, but not quite there with features, last I checked.
I was happy with decent default security and privacy in the past, and I could be, again, if it ever returns.
I would be glad to purchase a device from a trusted party, who pre-installed public source code, on open hardware.
I’ll be very pleased if Framework ever releases a phone.
And sure, most people, in general, are clueless, about most things. Point granted.
But the people with a clue about today’s brutal privacy situation want device that is reasonably assured to be respect their wishes, and not chained to the whim of some asshole CEO.
Perfect is lovely. But good enough can still sell very well.
Not having it support tap to pay basically makes it a non starting for selling it.
The amount of stupid selling a phone with out that feature, while the same phone other times it works basically would just cause endless problems.
Yes people are that stupid
What is the point of a 1900€ phone? What is the target audience? How is it better than a 500€ phone?
Questions more towards Motorola than Graphene, but I doubt the Graphene foundation went into the partnership without knowing what kinds of specific phones would be covered.
There is no phone on earth that should cost 2000 fucking dollars
What the fuck is the point? Like really what the fuck??? Just make an affordable phone is it really that fucking hard??? Sorry for cruising so much but what the actual fuck??? LiKe is it actually hard to conceptualize common sense now a-days??? Like girl we’re 27 and broke and your telling us not only of we want out of the hellscape of Apple vs Android bullshit we either gotta make out own phone or pay 2k€ for a fucking phone?! FOR A PHONE!!! We’ve only bought 1 new phone EVER only purchased pre-used phones and they’ve all been old and even this “new” phone was old when we got it 😭 we’ve been stuck on this shitty ios phone stuff too fucking long and been waiting for like any good android phone and was looking at this like holy shit finally AND NOW IT’S 2 FUCN K EUROS!!!
Another 5 years on the iPhone 12 mini ig
For phones like these, which are primarily going to be used by nerds, tech enthusiasts and tinkerers, this is poor launch strategy from Motorola.
Most of the audience for something like this will be turned off by this and all the hype they generated will fizzle out a bit.
They should have started with a mid range launch first, get enthusiasts to rave about it and then upsell these extravagant features to less involved consumers.
There’s no reason for a phone to be that expensive. Laptops are cheaper and they do more wtaf
I’d like to have one, but there’s no fucking way a goddamned PHONE is worth $2000
especially today, when updates are so miniscule, I’m in shock when I realize the pixel 7 I got refurbished still works fine, with zero reason to update.
Yep, been doing used pixels for a while now. They’re all the same anyway. I don’t care about the camera.
My kids are dopes and constantly break screens so I’m not about to buy anything nice. We all have the same model and a spare. Broken, eBay screen, bring in the spare, fix the broken one, is now the spare.
You’ll get a new phone when it doesn’t get updates anymore, then you’ll just get the next one up.
Spending more than $300 on a phone is nuts to me. They’re all the same candy bar anyway.
A brand new phone should cost at most 499 US. anything beyond that is good damn stupid.
Signature is their pro max. Just wait for a new “edge” with GrapheneOS support.
Not justifying the price, its stupid expensive. But please don’t act like this will be the only Motorola with GrapheneOS support.
Security isn’t for poor people I guess
What is this obsession with cramming 5+ cameras into phones
How brainrotted do you have to be to spend that much on a phone with a sealed in 2-year battery?
Personally, I already balked at the size of the screen (~6.8"). The ridiculous price is just the final nail in the coffin.
Mini tablets were 7 inches.
It’s ridiculous; how am I meant to fit something half the size of my dick in my pocket?
How am I meant to fit something seven times the size of my dick in my pocket?
Did you try tucking?
Wait, is this really the size of a nexus 7?
phones have a different aspect ratio than tablets plus the nexus 7 had giant bezels
Fair point on the bezels.
Yeah, I hate that Jeff Bezels guy too!
Just let it hang and sway, let it out bro. This is 🦅 America 🇺🇸, bitches! gunfire, big macs showering from the sky, and jets flying over in formation
(and if you don’t live here then we can bring you some freedom too, and you too can let your freak flag fly)
and if you don’t live here then we can bring you some freedom too
No thanks. I live in a country freer than the US, you guys keep all that to yourselves.
can i come over to play vidya
Sure, just stay for 90 days only.
EDIT : you can smoke the legal weed only if someone gives it to you for free, you can’t buy any.
More big macs for me 😎
Yikes, I hadn’t looked into the screen size until you mentioned it. They seem to be going after the XL / tablet size type of devices, exactly the ones that I avoid. Oh well, maybe they’ll eventually release a phone with a more normal screen size closer to 6.3".
Couldn’t agree more. I’m currently on the Pixel 6a, and in spite of having perfectly average-sized hands, I feel its 6.1" display is unwieldy. 6.8" is just bonkers.
I’d love a giant screen. I miss my nexus 6.
