• The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldOP
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      A lot of the conversations we have today are the same that people have been having for generations. It still seems anachronistic to read sometimes though.

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        Like complaining about how children act, or how no one wants to work anymore. Or how the politicians have lost their minds.

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          Tbf these days those gripes are more valid than they have ever been. The children are mindless robots who commit crimes just to broadcast it on tiktok. The politicians are turning into literal nazis and wrecking the country on every feasible level. And “no one wants to work” not because of the tiresome nature of the grind, but rather because we are working for less buying power than what 12 year old child laborers had in the 50s. Not to mention the environment is going to shit for the benefit of a handful of people, and were all probably gonna die in one horrific natural disaster or another

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            Good points. I’m still not going to blame the kids for being put into this environment that influences them to do things. Children tend not to be bad at the start, they just learn that behavior. Just like racism or other terrible things. And the phrase “No one wants to work” is usually best followed by things like “in these conditions” or “for little compensation”. Damn right.

        • The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldOP
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          I was watching something from the late 60s the other day, and there was a line by a young actress explaining that young people don’t think there will be a future for them and are living accordingly.

          It was the exact same sentiment you would expect to see while doom-scrolling today.

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            I mean…

            Basically every generation since the boomers had valid reason to believe WWIII would end us all. Everyones got nukes, and humans are stupid enough to use them!

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              Some degree of regression is less a matter of if than when unless our species can get its shit together. Look how hard COVID hit many parts of the world. While bad, it could easily have been much more serious. Imagine what the world would have looked like then.

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      The only one that’s particularly awful is the demand for wives to scamper to the door when the husband arrives, like a good little housepet. 🤮

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        Yeah, I think with a minor revision, that one would be okay. Just like, if you’re a stay-at-home mom or something, when your husband gets home, holler out to him, greet him, let him know where you are, you know, let him know he’s welcome to be home, something like that.

        My ex-wife was a stay-at-home wife, and when I got home she would say, “Hey” to me and it was nice to be greeted when I got home.

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          Yeah, that’s much more reasonable. Basically, “Show your partner you care that they’re there”.

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          In the 1920s… moms were not “stay at home moms” they were “housewives.” There is a difference. Men were not expected to assist in the house… nor in the parenting unless there was discipline to be meted out.

          I was a young child in the 1960s and was put to bed right after we had a family dinner at 7 pm. My contact with my father involved welcoming him home (literally jumping from the top of the stairs in our split level) and having dinner in my nightgown at the kids table and kissing every one goodnight and going to sleep… and that was on the the nights he came home at a decent hour.

          My mother was responsible for the house upkeep, laundry, meals, food and she did extra little jobs for such luxuries as a new wash machine, a piece of furniture, our doctor and dentist bills and keeping the home in cigarettes and scotch. Because if they were not there… she had hell to pay from Dad. Occasionally, she would have to write a check for them for which he berated her for.

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        Absent of the gender assumption, it’s good advice for any spouse to greet their partner when they come home. There’s a good chance that they’ve been working and being welcomed home can relieve a lot of the stress that builds up from being out of the house. It makes one feel like one has come home, rather than just come back to a place where one can take off one’s shoes.

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          I just want to know… who does not greet their partner when they return home? I take the advice there as a more servile action… like bringing slippers and a cocktail dressed up with heels and full make up? I mean, in the 1920s, many women worked. So maybe this is advice for the upper middle class that hire housemaids?

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          It doesn’t say “greet”. It says “listen for the latchkey and meet him on the threshold”. That’s demented. And I already agreed with bizarroland, so not really sure what your point is here.

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            And why do that?

            “Show your partner you care that they’re there”

            That’s the idea. You are looking for sexism that isn’t here.

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        i’ll be honest, i like when my wife greets me at the door when i get home. I like when my cats greet me at the door when i get home. likewise my wife really likes when the cats, or more importantly i greet her at the door (as it’s a sign i’m having a good enough day to get up). we’re usualy excited to see each other. but it’s not a habit anyone but the cats have.

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          Yeah, maybe just word it different, like “Say hello to each other,” and it has a less condescending tone. I read that first one and expected some terrible advice to follow, and it all ended up being good advice; maybe worded a little of-the-time, but still good.

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          I work from home and if I’m able to right when my wife gets home I’ll meet her at the door.

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          Same here. I missed her, I want to hug her, tell her something interesting that happened, ask about her day, etc.

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        Eh. I’m a work from home house husband. I try to meet my wife by the door when she gets home. We have dogs so it’s pretty easy for me to tell when she pulls up.

        I think the problem comes when the spous feels entitled to the treatment which is different.

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          Working for pay from home is different than working without pay from home in the power dynamic. Especially in a time when women could not legally have their own bank account without their husband cosigning and having access.

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    I kind of expected these to have aged worse. Some are solid - if a little obvious in modern times - advice.

    And then there are the others… At least some of them are humorous; show them to your partner guys i’m sure she will appreciate them. Even if she is just a wife 🫠

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        so like, i used to belong to a cult. they had this “what should you be looking for in a spouse” lesson and I mentioned I was looking for someone intelligent, as someone who couldn’t keep up with me would be boring. i practically started a riot. like, sign a million that cult was not for me.

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          One of the many myriad things I adore about my wife is that she will ask me questions about things to understand them better. To the point where she’s made me look up sources and challenge and sometimes change what I know to be true.

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        That is me. I have a poor sense of color and have needed to be restrained in the past.

        Jokes on my wife though because her sense of pitch is shaky, while I sure can sing.

        Then again, she’s an artist and I’m a musician. She has taught me how to avoid the really bad combinations and some theory of color while I have taught her to stay on pitch when there’s a background voice doing something else.

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    That’s right lady’s! Don’t let your man leave the house with brown boots and a black belt. Use the belt and restrain him until he gets his color’s right!

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          She’s reading books called things like “The Cobbler’s Love Truncheon”. Probably about a cobbler who is also a British police officer by night.

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      That has been me in the past. Not to my wife, but as a younger person, I only read history books and stuff (still do) and felt superior because I did that (I don’t do that anymore of course), so I would sneer at my friends’ fiction and stuff because it was “worthless” compared to “real history” where you “actually learned stuff”.

      It’s a dumb mindset, and I definitely don’t feel like that anymore. I still don’t read fiction or enjoy it, but it’s just a hobby like any other, or like my thing with history.

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          Interestingly enough, I love fictional movies, TV shows and comics/graphic novels/manga. It’s just with books where I get bored extremely easily if I don’t feel like there’s a tangible connection with the real world.

          I guess I approach books with a “time to learn” mindset, and not necessarily as sources of entertainment. Even though I very much enjoy learning about history, and find it entertaining.

          I read a lot, too, just not much fiction. If you look at my Kindle library, I have bought like 50 books since I got it, around 10 are fiction, and all are about 30-40% through, none are finished. The remaining 40 are either history books or textbooks for my other hobbies. I have only dropped 2 of them.

          I have a handful of fictional books that I have finished and thoroughly enjoyed: Hundred Years of Solitude by Garcia Marquez, Musashi by Eiji Yoshikawa, the Harry Potter Series (when I was younger), the Feast of the Goat by Vargas Llosa and the Woman in the Dunes by Kobo Abe.

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    These are all don’ts. Where are some of the do’s?

    I’m actually surprised some of the don’ts for the husbands are good advice.

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    Surprisingly not the blatant misogyny I expected given the title

    Though the typography has me feeling this is a potentially bit more modern than 1913, however I’m not quite sure when this sort of sans-serif tabloidy style became prevalent, so I could be completely off the mark.

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      don’t know about the tabloidy style but grotesque types started in the 19th century. makes sense that it would be popular enough in the early 20th century, leading into art deco, which is mostly associated with sans serif types.

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        The typography in the picture is not from 1913. It is modern. The text may be transcribed from a 1913 text, but it would not have looked like that in the slightest.

        Edit: Someone posted the link, it is from a 2007 edition of The Daily Mail.

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      You are correct. The typograhpy in the picture is completely modern. It may be a transscription from a 1913 text, but the picture doesn’t show a 1913 text, and there is no source given, so you are right to be suspicious.

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    Pfah! I sneer at your bridge-playing!

    Margaret handed you your ass every week for the last month! You can’t take tricks for shit.